No, that's why I didn't make up a story about him.

So, you don't know if it's true or not then?

Yet you pull me for supposed story telling......Hmmm, very level headed of you ......

FACT: The RFL described me as "exactly the type of person we need to promote the game in London"....I hardly count that as being ignored.
FACT: A figure of somewhere in the region of 40% of what I was currently was earning was quoted....I regret with every ounce of my being that I didn't take the pay cut!

Feel free to contact IL and question either of these statements.....do you want his personal email address of mobile number?

As for Newton, I took the "timeline" of his birth from an old episode of the footy show where he explained the circumstances of his birth...he was in Australia a matter of weeks after his birth.....I have no idea if he was there permanently or if he was just brought home to "do the family rounds"....I wasn't aware that his mother actually lived in the USA.....have you evidence that she resided there permanently?

As for the crowds...I was the first to say that there were about 575,000 seats available given the venues...I said then that 360k would be the number....it may well get to 400k, making me 10% out....I have never predicted failure, I have questioned the release of information. I have never said the RLWC would not make money......what I have said and I stand by it, is that it could have been done a whole lot better.

Wembley and Cardiff will deliver the largest chunk of "increase".....remove the DH events and give me a tournament average then we'll discuss the merits of this RLWC and its LEGACY.

nobody is interested in your childish bragging, twisting and turning negativity or this new attempt for you to change the argument. You were wrong are being proven wrong and are a busted flush.

Jack Newton was a world top 10 golfer.
I don't know what happens with UK golfers who make the top flight, but Australian golfers have to move to the US and play the US tour for at least half the year and train for a good part of the rest. Most of them don't even return for the big Australian tournaments.
Having said that, I do remember Jack as one of the one's who travelled back fairly often, and unlike most of them, he moved back to Australia when his career was on the skids. He probably made several trips to and from Australia every year. He played the European tour as well.

So you admit to being 100% wrong in your assertion that I was ignored? All you have is personal insults when anyone gets under your skin by making a comment you disagree with and who won't bow to your inane internet bullying tactics.....it's a ing forum TA, we're supposed to have differing opinions.


would require a modicum of proof for that to happen.....and you splitting hairs over Newton being a few weeks or a couple of years old takes you nicely away from territory you were uncomfortable in.....

No I meant what I said, no-one is interested in you bragging about how much you earn or that you have Ian lenegans phone number. I meant exactly what I said and have no interest in your Ian lenegan straw man and I'm pretty sure no-one has any interest in us having a tit for tat argument about who told who what.

I have no problem with any one having a difference of opinion, simply those who lie, make things up and twist and fudge to either troll or push an agenda that get called out when they show it. If you have a problem with being called on what you are doing don't do it.

And no you are wrong (again) there is no onus on me to disprove your claim, it is entirely on you to prove it. You have already admitted you had no idea and simply guessed on a half remembered quote from a tv show years ago because it fit your bias. You have already admitted you lied whether Clint Newton lived there for a minute a year or a decade.

FYI however long Clint Newton lived in America for he has publicly stated he has been in talks with them since the last millennium and would have done for the last decade if it wasn't for injury.

You accused me of being ignored....I simply countered with fact. You dislike this, so frame it up as bragging. You really do resort to personal insults when you get uncomfortable don't you!


You patently do have a problem with differing opinions as I am now a Troll and am pushing an Agenda.....as for being called on it, as I have alluded to earlier, proof would be helpful to your stance that I lied.


It's a tiny part of the debate.....Newton is as Australian as vegemite as well you know and nobody has disproved my recollection of him being in Australia within a matter of weeks anyway. You are pretty good at focussing on a minor issue to deflect away from your uncomfortable squirming over the bigger issue.


Good for him.......it doesn't change the fact that he is one of 50 players in 9 teams at this world cup who were actually born in the country he is representing......and highlighting the RoI soccer team is yet another desperate attempt to deflect away from the issue under discussion.

As I said, I have no interest in your Ian lenegan straw man. You have already been advised that it it isn't up to me to prove you wrong it's your assertion, you prove it. Nobody will care but the onus is on you.

If anyone is focussing on the minor and ignoring the bigger picture it's you with your inane and pointless fixation on which country a baby exited a vagina. It's irrelevant. I don't care where people are born its a small world these days, people move.

If you are that dumb to wonder why Places like the pacific islands, home nations, Italy and the USA have strong cultural and ancestral links with Australia, England and New Zealand then we would need a new word for your idiocy.

It seems this in your new bone though, now your whinging complaining and criticisms of crowds now look stupid this is the new argument you are hiding behind.

The funny thing is that it is a dumb, irrelevant and frankly a little bigoted criticism of the WC you are hiding behind that actually distracts from a legitimate issue with the game. You have talked yourself into this nonsensical invented problem you have missed the great big steaming obvious problem.

so basically you accuse me of something and a) I am not allowed counter the accusation and b) you don't have to back up your accusation with proof. It is a truly strange world you live in buddy. Other people would have missed that brilliant insight, but not you. Thats why you get the big bucks.

The stock answer when personal insults have failed......
FACTS remain that the top 7 ranked countries provide 91% of all the players at this tournament. I believe it is still possible for Italy to meet Australia in the Final......feel free to tell me how normal/acceptable it would be to have a world cup final contested by 2 teams of 17 players, with 2 Kiwis and 32 Australian born players

...I'd go back to personal insults if I were you buddy.

not a stock answer at all. Simply the correct one. When what you are saying is irrelevant, it gets called irrelevant. When you are being a troll you get called a troll.