Yes that punch would of flattened a horse too

So because he punches like a girl, it's all ok?

Stop ducking and diving the subject.

It was a d*ck move by briers, yes? and if an oppo player had done that you'd be baying for blood.

If our game has any credibility or integrity he'll be banned for at least one game, yes?

Which will mean he misses warringtons crucial final eliminator against whoever they face....which could... COULD cost you a place in the big one. You reap what you sew.

Running in means someone not involved in the original incident in this case the original incident is between Briers and Ablett, now say someone else, Westwood for instance had hit Ablett that would be classed as running in, even if he'd walked.

If it was Bailey yes i would have been calling for his head i was very relieved Briers wasn't sent off as i thought it was nailed on.

Do you agree he should get a one match ban? The incident wasn't dealt with on the field and players have been sent off for it this season.

No, by that i mean the grade is 0-1 match ban, early guilty plea, fine only.

But yes i agree he should be cited within the rules of the game.

On an old school level Ablett was a softcock but that's a seperate issue.

Oh come on, take the wire specs off. How can you say ablett is a softcock when he laughed at briers.

Within the laws of the game according to the RFL website, it's a grade C - [i Punching - sustained, repeated or violent[/i

At very very very best it's a B. Listings for B are as follows [iA-B Reaction to opponent - lashing out
A-B Punching - self defence
A-B Punching - one on one - minor[/i

It can't be classed as reaction because ablett didn't prdouce any fowl play for it to be classified as such. It can't be classed as self defense because ablet had his back turned and did nothing to briers.

It wasn't one on one because ablett took no part.

Now look at grade C, punching and sustained.

Briers threw multiple punches from behind so it's grade C. Which is 2 to 3 games. I'd be happy if briers got 1 game, but taking into account he wasn't sent off, not even sin binned if he get's out of this without even a ban it's a complete farce.

For you to even suggest a grade which allows him to escape with no games shows your bias.

Also, last season in the first playoff game leeds played wakefield. Towards the end of the game leuluai threw a few punches at peter fox. The squared up to each other and leuluai got a one game ban and missed the next playoff game. This is fact. For punching the briers incident is higher up on the grading because of the cicrumstances.

If briers doesn't get banned at all it shows how poorly our game is currently being goverened.

Wire specs?

Firstly an Ex ref on the sky team tells us what grade it is and the punishment for that grade, more qualified than me and you. He says 0-1 ban ok...then Briers has no previous so EGP and he gets a fine, make up all you want i'll go with an expert opinion rather than one that suits an agenda.

Secondly Ablett if he was old school wouldn't have let a Stand off give him a smack especially a cheap blindsider and would have knocked his block off, he's a soft cock because he held his hands up and looked at the ref with that "Whaa whaa he just hit me referee, do something" again though unrelated just an opinion of someone who yearns for some old school rough and tough to come back to the game.

SC stated multiple opinions during the game. He later stated it could be 2-3. Remember when eddie was saying ''it get's worse'' everytime SC altered his opinion? If you look at the black and white of the rules it can easily be classified as a 2-3. He's thrown multiple punches from behind.

You're kidding about ablett?

That little rant about him, he was waving his arms around while briers was on the floor, beefing that someone had the temerity to scrag him to the floor.

3 minutes in, Bailey has just struck a prone Stefan ratchford in the face for no reason. no penalty given, how come your not saying he should have been sent off?

A) He didn't punch him from behind

B) He was struggling to get to his feet and play the ball. Players often try to push away the opposition player as they struggle to their feet. There is often hands and arms flailing about. This happens all the time. Sometimes the oppo player takes exception and is often how scuffles start. Sometimes they ignore it and don't give a penalty away. It's just one of the subtle parts of the game.

You trying to compare something innocuous like that with briers is laughable.

he wasn't trying to get to his feet, ratch wasn't obstructing him, he just hit him.

and if you want label things as laughable, then the reaction and crying from rhinos supporters is best described as laughable, considering the fortune and favourable refereeing you've had over the years.

this is what it feels like bein on the other side of it, stop crying, and suck it up.

You've not read all of my posts in this thread have you?

And if you look on the rhinos board the majority of the rhinos fans are unmoved by the decisions.

buck up flex

If Briers had to be sent off then Childs would have had to follow through and send off two or three more players for the brawl that followed, otherwise we could be arguing about the brawlers getting away with murder.