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| Not really. The post come in to play when the ball hits it. It doesn't come into play if a player hits it.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As the middle of the ball is clearly NOT in touch, and as that part hits the ground first (because the ball is round) then any fair person who uses their brain to THINK about it must agree that the decision was correct. The arguments that claim the edge of the ball was on the line would be valid, if the ball was shaped as a shoe box. But it isn't.
'"Whether it hit the ground before line is surely irrelevant though - did it hit the ground before the post???
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| Quote: never had it "I know one still image is not conclusive evidence. But even the most biased must see that this view shown only once by Sky does add a large degree of doubt. It is shown about 30 seconds in to the video ref review
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For me, that is the best evidence that it was a try. Yes the ball does touch the line, but surely some part of the ball has touched the ground in goal before it has touched the line (albeit very fine margins). It's not like he's plonked the whole ball on the line is it? My opinion.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: never had it "I know one still image is not conclusive evidence. But even the most biased must see that this view shown only once by Sky does add a large degree of doubt. It is shown about 30 seconds in to the video ref review
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It stands to reason that if the side of the ball hits the corner flag, the lowest point of the ball must hit the floor in-field.
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| Quote: Mable_Syrup "Not really. The post come in to play when the ball hits it. It doesn't come into play if a player hits it.'"
I'd check the rules if I were you. Even Cummins was saying at the time that the corner post has no bearing.
It's all gone a bit quiet in here now that picture has gone on which clearly shows green between the ball and the line.
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "It stands to reason that if the side of the ball hits the corner flag, the lowest point of the ball must hit the floor in-field.'"
But it's also conclusive proof that the ball was not placed directly on its end, but rather more sideways which blows most of your arguments and perfectly positioned ball diagram out of the water.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As the middle of the ball is clearly NOT in touch, and as that part hits the ground first (because the ball is round) then any fair person who uses their brain to THINK about it must agree that the decision was correct. The arguments that claim the edge of the ball was on the line would be valid, if the ball was shaped as a shoe box. But it isn't.
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WTF is this?!!! Forget video technology, get FA to draw us a picture!
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| Quote: never had it "I know one still image is not conclusive evidence. But even the most biased must see that this view shown only once by Sky does add a large degree of doubt. It is shown about 30 seconds in to the video ref review
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This picture also clearly proves Charnley lost it.
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| It was a try. So was Lauaki's.
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| I'm not a referee but I can't see any references to the flag not being touch in goal:
"The ball is in touch in-goal when it or a player in contact with it touches the touch in-goal line, or any object on or outside the touch in-goal line."
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"A corner post is in touch in-goal."
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: Gallanteer "But it's also conclusive proof that the ball was not placed directly on its end, but rather more sideways which blows most of your arguments and perfectly positioned ball diagram out of the water.'"
I didn't say the ball was placed directly on its end, that's neither my argument nor my diagram to which you refer. However, I don't see that it matters either way, my point still stands whichever way the ball was put down (and I was referring specifically to the way it appeared in the photo in the post I quoted, obviously).
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As the middle of the ball is clearly NOT in touch, and as that part hits the ground first (because the ball is round) then any fair person who uses their brain to THINK about it must agree that the decision was correct. The arguments that claim the edge of the ball was on the line would be valid, if the ball was shaped as a shoe box. But it isn't.
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The ball never got placed down on its point though, obvious to see for most!
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: GansonTheClown "I'm not a referee but I can't see any references to the flag not being touch in goal
I dare say the RFL need to update their own website.
But with regards the ball being in touch in goal when it touches the in goal line: to adjudicate that it was in touch, Childs would need to see not only that it touched the line, but that it touched the line before it touched the ground. It isn't possible for him to do so, and as has been pointed out, there is enough reason to assume that the lowest point of the ball was further in field than touch line/flag, so he can't in good faith say it was out.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "As the middle of the ball is clearly NOT in touch, and as that part hits the ground first (because the ball is round) then any fair person who uses their brain to THINK about it must agree that the decision was correct. The arguments that claim the edge of the ball was on the line would be valid, if the ball was shaped as a shoe box. But it isn't.
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