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I remember SL Backchat a couple of months ago and was surprised by this:-

The restructuring for next year was looking at a reduction to twelve teams. Rod Studd said to the 3 guests (Stevo, Andy Wilson and I think it was Danny Lockwood) who will be the 2 to leave SL in 2013. All 3 replied London and Bradford.

I wasn't surprised by the London comments but Bradford was a strange one at the time. Did they know something wasn't right then ?

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Outstanding work from RLfans. Club comes out and says we are not near administration, this is temporary cash flow issue. 7 pages of wailing and gnashing of teeth that this isn’t a temporary cash flow issue and club is near administration eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Outstanding work from RLfans. Club comes out and says we are not near administration, this is temporary cash flow issue. 7 pages of wailing and gnashing of teeth that this isn’t a temporary cash flow issue and club is near administration
Yes its surprising that those who are definitely "not in the know" think they know more than those who are.

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"temporary cash flow issues" are not usually indicative of club in good health. To be fair, your world must be quite a happy one, where you lap up any statement or press release issued by the RFL or clubs like Bradford. Far be it from me to suggest the real world is better than your happy fantasy one (it probably isn't), but hey, if you're ever interested in what's going on, drag out some old statements and press releases (say from a few years ago) from the RFL, or Bradford, or Crusaders, or all 3, whatever, and compare them with subsequent events. You might learn something.

Any update on how the RFL's strategic plan is going?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Outstanding work from RLfans. Club comes out and says we are not near administration, this is temporary cash flow issue. 7 pages of wailing and gnashing of teeth that this isn’t a temporary cash flow issue and club is near administration
Ah so you believe everything you get told? You're a politicians dream.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Outstanding work from RLfans. Club comes out and says we are not near administration, this is temporary cash flow issue. 7 pages of wailing and gnashing of teeth that this isn’t a temporary cash flow issue and club is near administration
A temporary cash flow problem is not being able to draw a tenner out of a cash machine.
A pro organisation run by capable people not paying their well known employees (some of which have a knack for talking loudly on social media sites) and then seeming telling pork pies to their own newly appointed Deputy Director who then posts these points on social media doesnt scream problems at you?

Just saying...

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Oh dear,bring a buddy for a fiver.They do realise that many who would usually pay full price at the gate will be latching on to a ST holder and paying the club LESS.Dont they?

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Quote: RLBandit ""temporary cash flow issues" are not usually indicative of club in good health. To be fair, your world must be quite a happy one, where you lap up any statement or press release issued by the RFL or clubs like Bradford. Far be it from me to suggest the real world is better than your happy fantasy one (it probably isn't), but hey, if you're ever interested in what's going on, drag out some old statements and press releases (say from a few years ago) from the RFL, or Bradford, or Crusaders, or all 3, whatever, and compare them with subsequent events. You might learn something.'"
You talk about how you are living in the real world, in a post moaning about a problem you don’t know exists. We can either work with the information we have, or we can invent information in our heads. Only one of them, however, is living in the real world.


Quote: RLBandit "Any update on how the RFL's strategic plan is going?'"
Its on their website. Have a look.

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Quote: LeedsDave "Ah so you believe everything you get told? You're a politicians dream.'"

I make a conclusion on the basis of the information available to me. If that information changes, my conclusions change. In the absence of alternative information, I don’t just make it up.

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Quote: Ande "A temporary cash flow problem is not being able to draw a tenner out of a cash machine.
A pro organisation run by capable people not paying their well known employees (some of which have a knack for talking loudly on social media sites) and then seeming telling pork pies to their own newly appointed Deputy Director who then posts these points on social media doesnt scream problems at you?

Just saying...'"

It screams they don’t have cash right now to pay them. They say that is a temporary issue they will over come. What information do I have to dispute that? Just being generally cynical isn’t going to get you any closer to the truth than simply believing everything you are told.

We see rumours constantly on these boards, 4 or 5 times a season that a certain club is about to fall over. Very rarely is it true. Yet somehow we have gotten ourselves to a state when even in the face of an absolute denial, all clubs are literally on the brink of falling over all the time.

We see it with everything, Bradford tell us they aren’t about to fall over = they are definitely about to fall over, The RFL tell us they have sold 200k tickets for the WC = The RFL definitely hasn’t sold 200k tickets for the WC, 15k go watch Les Catalans in Toulouse = 15k definitely did not go watch Les Catalans in Toulouse, the media are out to get us when they publish bad news about the game, the RFL are lying to us when they publicise good news about it. Its like watching eeyore have a panic attack

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Quote: SmokeyTA "It screams they don’t have cash right now to pay them. They say that is a temporary issue they will over come. What information do I have to dispute that? Just being generally cynical isn’t going to get you any closer to the truth than simply believing everything you are told.

We see rumours constantly on these boards, 4 or 5 times a season that a certain club is about to fall over. Very rarely is it true. Yet somehow we have gotten ourselves to a state when even in the face of an absolute denial, all clubs are literally on the brink of falling over all the time.

We see it with everything, Bradford tell us they aren’t about to fall over

Do you seriously take all the stuff you read at face value!! The skill is it interpret the data you are presented with and draw a reasonable conclusion

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Quote: SmokeyTA "It screams they don’t have cash right now to pay them. They say that is a temporary issue they will over come. What information do I have to dispute that? Just being generally cynical isn’t going to get you any closer to the truth than simply believing everything you are told.

We see rumours constantly on these boards, 4 or 5 times a season that a certain club is about to fall over. Very rarely is it true. Yet somehow we have gotten ourselves to a state when even in the face of an absolute denial, all clubs are literally on the brink of falling over all the time.

We see it with everything, Bradford tell us they aren’t about to fall over
You forgot: Negative comment on RLFans = RL hater damaging the game by 'talking it down'.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "Do you seriously take all the stuff you read at face value!! The skill is it interpret the data you are presented with and draw a reasonable conclusion'"

We have precisely 0 data at all to contradict what Bradford are saying. If you have some, share it. Show us numbers, figures, data.

Right now all we know of fact is that Bradfords players didn’t get paid, we have been told they will get paid on the 8th and it is a temporary cash flow issue. What data right now, do we have to contradict that? I haven’t seen any other than the general depressed, paranoid cynicism of RLfans.

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Quote: RLBandit "You forgot: Negative comment on RLFans
no, its: Talking the game down with no logic, reasoning, proof, or supporting information behind negative comment = talking the game down.

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Quote: Dug Out "Oh dear,bring a buddy for a fiver.They do realise that many who would usually pay full price at the gate will be latching on to a ST holder and paying the club LESS.Dont they?'"


No, this is such an astonishing insight, almost worthy of a Nobel prize, that there can be no doubt yours must surely be the first human brain to which such a possibility has occurred. Your personal Eureka moment, perhaps. Well done.

I'm sure that what they DO realise is that there is NO marketing they could EVER do, which would not be immediately castigated by sneering, halfwit, self-appointed marketing experts.
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