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Quote: christopher "He's done that in plenty games for Leeds, just not this one. He is a great of the game, and history will prove this. He has actually won MOM in a win against Melbourne.'"
And he won MOM in last seasons Grand Final against Wire yet Ablett was streets ahead of him in that game.

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Quote: PONNER "My god all these people agreeing with me now after I was slated a few weeks ago for saying the same kind of thing. He's a great goal kicker no doubt but it's only because he has a decent team behind him that he wins all those accolades. The amount of last tackle kicks he puts out on the full, the amount of knock ons and forward passes he throws will never make him a worthy Golden Boot winner. I said there would be at least 50 NRL players worthy of that title before him and we saw 17 of them in a Melbourne shirt on Friday. For those that say it's for his leadership skills then where are those skills when the Rhinos have been getting beaten on a regular basis for the first 2/3 of the season in the last 2 years. While we have him as an England captain we won't have a cat in hells chance of winning the world cup.'"


Care to provide anything resembling evidence for these ridiculous statements? I'd love to know what proportion of his kicks go out on the full, I would imagine it's miniscule, and I would imagine also that his forward passes and knock ons would compare favourably with most. I'm willing to accept I'm wrong, once you provide the mountain of evidence you've obviously used to come to these conclusions (don't forget to include comparative stats for other players, wouldn't want you seeming like an agenda driven crackpot now would we...)

Just because you think every member (I've got that right haven't I, every single member?) of the Storm squad, including the 3/4 line who were outclassed by their opposite numbers (including a second rower playing out of position) are better, along with at least fifty others, doesn't make it so. Likewise your baffling insistence that he isn't a great leader because we lost a fair few early in the season - am I to assume that Cameron Smith is therefore rubbish because the Storm lost five on the bounce at the back end of the season? Even with (at least) 17 players better than Sinfield in his team? He must be a dreadful captain. But then, when it mattered, both led their teams to the top prize didn't they, so maybe they know what they're doing.

Swap Sinfield with his opposite number in either of the GF semi's or finals in the last two seasons and I'd wager the opposition would win. He makes the right decisions on an overwhelmingly regular basis, he's an exceptional kicker, he's a great reader of the game and I have absolutely no doubt he is the best leader we have in England by a huge distance - if you can't see that then, in my humble opinion, you're either biased or you don't understand what he does.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: Bull Mania "I'm simply concerned as an England fan that our captain produced nothing in a WCC final. '"

Course you are.

Were you worried about Widdup's display, as Sinfield's main competitor for the 6 jersey?

Leeds had three players on display on friday that have and can play half for England. If I were you I'd be more worried about your club pulling it's socks up and doing it's share to produce players for England....as an England fan of course.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: r4yne "Leeds fans are delusional to think Kevin Sinfield qualifies as a good player, hell some school boys are better.'"

Colour me delusional then because he looked pretty good in those Grand Finals in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2011. Were you at any of those?

I've watched Kevin his entire career. Nothing but class. I really can't understand the vitriol such a fine sportsman garners from certain "fans" of our game. He's a great ambassador for the sport.

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Quote: G1 "Course you are.

Were you worried about Widdup's display, as Sinfield's main competitor for the 6 jersey?

Leeds had three players on display on friday that have and can play half for England. If I were you I'd be more worried about your club pulling it's socks up and doing it's share to produce players for England....as an England fan of course.'"



Yes Widdops performance wasn't the best, but he's not the England captain. Sinfields has done the business for Leeds in the past. Aginst the Aussies he's always struggled, then again so have many other players. But the stage was set for him, he is named England captain, he controversially won the golden boot, the Aussies were in up roar, here was his chance to prove he can do it against Australias' best, he is the man to lead England in a WC final, he is worthy of the golden boot.... and he went missing.

I've just been so frustrated in the past where we all get our hopes up we're going to beat the Aussies, then we get let down and the players don't perform. It was just de ja vu for me and i can see the same thing happening in the WC. Reason i singled him out, he's the captain and been made the main man by Mcnamara. Time he stood up againt the Aussies.

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Quote: ThePrinter "And what do you think will happen if we play someone else at 6 in the WC and they're playing behind a beaten pack and been giving no time on the ball? Do you honestly think they'll somehow raise above that?

The problem last night (and for England looking at how they'll probably line up) is other players kicking. Last night it was always 'give it to Sinfield on the last' and Melbourne always went after him. Their was no need to always go to Sinfield for the kick as Burrow (a great 40/20 in the GF) and McGuire can also kick well at times but we didn't put any doubt in the minds of the Storm about who would recieve it on the 5th. Like I mentioned above England will probably have the same worry because of just leaving all kicking duties to Sinfield. If you know one player is going to end up with the ball 90% of the time on the 5th it makes things a lot easier to read.'"


Which is one reason I think for putting him alongside Brough in the halves perhaps.

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This thread is pathetic. No wonder no-one beyond the M62 takes the sport seriously.

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Quote: Him "This thread is pathetic. No wonder no-one beyond the M62 takes the sport seriously.'"
Totally agree. Sinfield winning the Golden Boot has made our sport a laughing stock.

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Quote: PONNER "Totally agree. Sinfield winning the Golden Boot has made our sport a laughing stock.'"

You're either an idiot or a troll. If you're an idiot then our sport has plenty already, so please go away. If you're a troll then this message board has plenty already and they're better than you, so please go away.

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Quote: Bull Mania "
I've just been so frustrated in the past where we all get our hopes up we're going to beat the Aussies, then we get let down and the players don't perform. It was just de ja vu for me and i can see the same thing happening in the WC. Reason i singled him out, he's the captain and been made the main man by Mcnamara. Time he stood up againt the Aussies.'"

Translation: I am a Bulls fan and I hate the Rhinos and their hugely successful captain.

I don't know if you're convincing yourself about your motives but apart from the idiot Ponner I doubt you're convincing anyone else.

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Thanks for proving my point, Ponner.

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I'm looking forward to Sinfield playing the leading role for England in the RLWC.

Very much so in fact.

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Quote: William Eve "I'm looking forward to Sinfield playing the leading role for England in the RLWC.

Very much so in fact.'"



And you'll no doubt produce endless statistics to show why you are looking forward to it.

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Sinfield is a good solid Super League Player.

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