during that period, 3 of their most penalized players, were, chriss beattie, alex chan, and ian hindmarsh, all english speakers iirc.

They were just a very very rough team, i thought they got penalized appropriately as they played, and i loved watching them then, i love watching them play now, less said about the walters years , the better.

Catalan are penalised a lot because they play sh-thouse rough tactics, nothing more.

I'm still trying to work out how Toulouse getting penalised more than anyone else suggests that they're a dirty side.
You do get penalised for a lot of other things, including - as pointed out earlier - slow PTB and other such offences, offide for example.

A bit of a straw man there, all it say is that TO13 were penalised more than anyone else. Nothing more, nothing less.

So you are only allowed one shot then?

What about Huddersfield, Salford, Castleford and Widnes?

What about them?

Other than Huddersfield, who didn't go down when maybe they should have, the other 3 have gone down and come back up...Widnes went down even though they didn't finish bottom and have entered and come out of admin.....as a club, they acted like a business when turned down for the first round of licences...there was no very public dummy-spit or meltdown as there was in Leigh.....there was no last game atendance announced that dragged the seasons average up to 2,500 exactly like there was at Halifax.......they presented the best plan in the eyes of the RFL.

Halifax and Leigh both nearly bankrupted themselves trying to stay in SL and as a result, they found themselves unable to "bounce back"......both clubs are now to be applauded for the way they are run and if they keep up this good work both on and off the field, they will get a licence, but some of their fans, especially the ones who say "we don't care about Superleague" do seem to post some bitter and twisted stuff regarding the competition they are glad their team isn't involved in

No, they don't.

If by prefer, he means "fix", then no, you are correct, they don't, but .........London Broncos v Catalans at either Old Trafford or Wembley would seriously test the devotion of many heartland fans and must feature highly in the list of Nightmare Scenarios for The RFL management Team.......IMO that is

That's sport. I doubt the FA were that chuffed when Millwall and Portsmouth got to their Cup final, but I don't hear football fans yelling about fixes to keep them out.

Have they stopped putting the balls in the freezer the night before the draw?

please, that's a fine comment from a Wire fan !

talk about the pot calling the kettle black ?

Exactly. I never mentioned the word 'fix.' But as you say, a London Broncos vs. Catalans Challenge Cup Final/Grand Final would be most disappointing for the RFL, to say the least.

Hmmm ..... What are you suggesting?

Toulouse were a poor and indisciplined side - not necessarily dirty. They were constantly trying to slow games down when on the back foot, and they were on the back foot a lot in the Championship.

A bit like Widnes this season. That's why they top the current Penalty league on 225 and the Dragons are down in 6th place with only 184 penalties. There is only 13 points between the Dragons and Wakey in 12th place.

Let's be honest. There is, and has been, no conspiracy against the French. This is just out and out whinging by a frustrated club. Some of the decisions I've seen given against Widnes this season have been nothing short of disgraceful. The goal kick that was disallowed against the Saints was stunning in its complete incompetence. But that is what it is - incompetence and the odd bad call.

Sh1t happens!