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| Quote: sanjunien "how about Sir Steve Menzies as MOS ?
had a great season and it would be a brilliant tribute to a fine player ?'"
i would make a special service award for him hes not the best player in the league but he is a fantastic role model for any young player.
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| Quote: sanjunien "Remi Casty has been outstanding in the home games this season either as an impact sub or starter - the captaincy has given him an extra edge
he won't get any MOM award in a million years cos' he's not in a 'sexy' position like Chase,Tomkins or Dureau etc but he really has been exceptional this season and is the Catalans player of the season by far
i do like casty, gives his all and is the beast at the front of catalans pack. hope he continues to develop, along with catalan. like you say unfortunately hes not in the most appealling position and would probably, no offense, get alot more recognition at another club.
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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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| I'd go for Menzies.
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| Even though I believe James Roby should be the MOS, I do think special mention should be made for Kevin Sinfield. He's been consistently good, week-in, week-out, often winning games on his own for Leeds. If Sinfield doesn't function, neither do the Rhinos.
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| Quote: dubairl "so your admitting you don't watch much rugby league then?
Ive watched every big game hes played in, and hes been average or poor in all of them as youve just admitted. Over rated.
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| Quote: Tre Cool "Ive watched every big game hes played in, and hes been average or poor in all of them as youve just admitted. Over rated.'"
way to back up your point buddy. has Sam Tomkins slept with a daughter or wife of yours? because when it comes to your judgement of him obviously something is upsetting you. Maybe your Tim Smith?
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'when my life is over, the thing which will have given me greatest pride is that I was first to plunge into the sea, swimming freely underwater without any connection to the terrestrial world'
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| Tompkins is class, thats why he is disliked so much by other teams fans, but he does not do enough across the board for me to be a MOS.
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| Quote: rover49 "Tompkins is class, thats why he is disliked so much by other teams fans, but he does not do enough across the board for me to be a MOS.'"
see now i can accept that as that is a reasonable opinion, not that well hes just a fast player and over hyped.
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[quote="FlexWheeler":8f22o6ue]The extent of his coaching is ''BASH EM, JUST F*CKING BASH EM. HE'S LOW ON CONFIDENCE, BASH HIM''
He's a limited coach that won't last long term.[/quote:8f22o6ue]
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[quote="rubber duckie":8f22o6ue]That would make Wigan strong favourites then. With Ratchford at FB and Patton with Cronk in the halves, I think we'll do very well without Sam.[/quote:8f22o6ue]: |
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| Quote: rover49 "Tompkins is class, thats why he is disliked so much by other teams fans, but he does not do enough across the board for me to be a MOS.'"
Does not do enough across the board.
26 try's (2nd most)
29 try assists (most)
2885 meters made (2nd most and off 386 carries compared to the 719 of first place)
137 tackle busts (most, 2nd has 8icon_cool.gif
34 clean breaks (most, 2nd has 26)
Only 18 errors, pretty much every major play maker in each team has more. Although most other playmakers do not play at fullback, so he also has to take high balls, as well as be the creative link in attack.
84.4% tackle success rate.
(other full time full backs rates are:
Webb 86.0
Phelps 84.3 (although I think he has played a few games away from fullback, and tackle rates tend to be higher say from fullback)
Wellens 84.2
McDonnell 81.5
Eden 79.5
Greenshields 78.9
Owen 73.6
Patten 73.5
Hodgeson 73.5
Kearney 72.2
Dorn 69.6
Mathers 68.2
Hull fc havent really had a full time fullback so it's hard to compare with them
So he has the 2nd highest tackle rate for fullbacks, pretty much equal with Wellens who many rate as the best tackling fullback)
Which areas does he not do enough?
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| Quote: jimlav "Does not do enough across the board.
26 try's (2nd most)
29 try assists (most)
2885 meters made (2nd most and off 386 carries compared to the 719 of first place)
137 tackle busts (most, 2nd has 8icon_cool.gif
34 clean breaks (most, 2nd has 26)
Only 18 errors, pretty much every major play maker in each team has more. Although most other playmakers do not play at fullback, so he also has to take high balls, as well as be the creative link in attack.
84.4% tackle success rate.
(other full time full backs rates are
I understand people not liking him but I genuinely can't see how another player can have looked better than him in someone's eyes.
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| Would like to see a little more recognition for Danny Houghton.
Sam Tomkins to win it this year I think.
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| Tomkins is a great player, but these stats are ridiculous. Roby topped every stat available last year and didn't win it. If stats were accurate, Phil Clarke would be entertaining...
FWIW I think the Man Of Steel, the person to have the biggest impact on the Super League in 2012, should be Mick Potter. Massive, massive, massive respect for a coach who can guide an average squad to the brink of the playoffs in normal circumstances, take away 6 points and 4 months wages and the guy should have a statue outside Odsal (subject to funding)
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| Quote: Side Burns "Tomkins is a great player, but these stats are ridiculous. Roby topped every stat available last year and didn't win it. If stats were accurate, Phil Clarke would be entertaining...
FWIW I think the Man Of Steel, the person to have the biggest impact on the Super League in 2012, should be Mick Potter. Massive, massive, massive respect for a coach who can guide an average squad to the brink of the playoffs in normal circumstances, take away 6 points and 4 months wages and the guy should have a statue outside Odsal (subject to funding)'"
what if they are playing at Valley Parade next season ?
agreed though, Potter should be Coach of the Year
and a good call for Danny Houghton IMO
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18919_1341147656.jpg [quote="King Monkey":30st820n]Maybe a spell in prison would do Graham good.
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| Tomkins has been the only real stand out. As good as Wigan have been I doubt that they'd be top if it weren't for Tomkins.
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61326_1313411800.jpg Friday 28th March, 2014, a day that will live in infamy...
[quote="Saddened!":fwnfr3rg]Whatever happens they have all been magnificent. Even Wello.[/quote:fwnfr3rg]
[quote="Saddened!":fwnfr3rg]Lance Hohaia can have my babies after that show[/quote:fwnfr3rg]
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| For me Tomkins and Roby have been by far the standout 2 players of the league this season...
Going on all round,consistent performances then Roby is brilliant every week, however Tomkins can be having a quiet game, then suddenly chime into it and do something brilliant to turn a game on its head that arguably no other player in SL could do.
Due to his consistency I would say Roby just edges Tomkins as MOS this season but couldnt argue too much if rat boy got it
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