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| Just watched the incident for the first time, after reading 6 pages on here and then seeing the incident, I can't see what the fuss is about. It wash,t even a shoulder charge more of a shoulder defensive block.
Mounis definitley dips less than a second before impact as though he was in surrender mode, how on earth is Puletua supposed to react in that space of time, the only reaction he made was too push the player after impact with both forearms.
A red card was another embarrassing decision during that game, not sure if you can even call it a penalty, we will see a lot worse than this, bad day at the office by the officials and the disciplinary in endorsing it as a charge.
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| A Shoulder Defensive Block?
It was a shoulder charge, which is a tackle that can be quite dangerous, I have been responsible for broken ribs when using the shoulder charge and it's been banned for years in RU.
However, it's not a tackle that I would like to see banned as the injuries are rare. I don't think it was a sending off but it's not far from being one, the charge is debatable in my opinion. But I agree bad day at the office, the favour that Saint's seem to have in the game is what won the game for Saint.
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| Quote: goobervision "A Shoulder Defensive Block?
It was a shoulder charge, which is a tackle that can be quite dangerous, I have been responsible for broken ribs when using the shoulder charge and it's been banned for years in RU.
However, it's not a tackle that I would like to see banned as the injuries are rare. I don't think it was a sending off but it's not far from being one, the charge is debatable in my opinion. But I agree bad day at the office, the favour that Saint's seem to have in the game is what won the game for Saint.'"
How can it be a shoulder charge when Puletua wasn't moving? He moves laterally and then plants his feet and sets himself for the collision, bending his back slightly. Yes, he leans into the collision as Mounis hits him but the only one charging anywhere and the person who dictates where contact is made, is Mounis.
I've said it before. The only one to blame is Mounis. He's showing the ball and not looking at the defender in front of him. When he realises he's heading straight into a brick wall he dips slightly and that's what caused the hit to the head. Puletua does nothing wrong for me.
I assume all those calling this a red card would have sent Morley off for that infamous hit on Hansen a few years ago? Morley was charging in at speed and clearly aimed his shoulder at the head, yet no punishment?
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| Quote: Cronus "How can it be a shoulder charge when Puletua wasn't moving? He moves laterally and then plants his feet and sets himself for the collision, bending his back slightly. Yes, he leans into the collision as Mounis hits him but the only one charging anywhere and the person who dictates where contact is made, is Mounis.
I've said it before. The only one to blame is Mounis. He's showing the ball and not looking at the defender in front of him. When he realises he's heading straight into a brick wall he dips slightly and that's what caused the hit to the head. Puletua does nothing wrong for me.
I assume all those calling this a red card would have sent Morley off for that infamous hit on Hansen a few years ago? Morley was charging in at speed and clearly aimed his shoulder at the head, yet no punishment?'"
Thats how I saw it from the replay, TP,s feet is almost static, it looked as though Mounis had in that split second had surrendered by dipping his head just before impact. Mounis if he had any honour should have spoke up in TP,s defence.
In reality the match officials have messed up in potentially losing the game for the catalans and cheating a player from making the next match appearance.
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www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/n ... 6302126454
"NRL club doctors yesterday welcomed any move to ban the shoulder charge, comparing their force to that of a car accident. Cronulla and Australia team doctor Dave Givney said shoulder charges could lead to many medical problems.
"Everyone talks about the warrior-like aspects of the game and you don't want to take too much of that away but shoulder charges cause a lot of problems," Givney said. "If they come off properly they look spectacular but the number of combatants that hurt their shoulders doing a shoulder charge is almost as many as the number of people that get rib injuries on the receiving end."
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www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/n ... 6302126454
"NRL club doctors yesterday welcomed any move to ban the shoulder charge, comparing their force to that of a car accident. Cronulla and Australia team doctor Dave Givney said shoulder charges could lead to many medical problems.
"Everyone talks about the warrior-like aspects of the game and you don't want to take too much of that away but shoulder charges cause a lot of problems," Givney said. "If they come off properly they look spectacular but the number of combatants that hurt their shoulders doing a shoulder charge is almost as many as the number of people that get rib injuries on the receiving end."
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| Of course the doctors want it banned...on medical advice we would play RL at all!
99 times out of a 100, is you get by a shoulder charge its because you're not concentrating on what's happening in front of you. I've been hit with shoulder charges before, and I've only ever blamed myself.
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| On back chat Stevo said "the Rfl are banning it from tomorrow" did I hear that right?
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