So on your comparison let's look at the following facts:
Cas have never been in admin
Cas have had bigger attendances in all but one SL season than Wakey. Incidentally the year we were in NL1.
You are misguided about Wakey planning. Cas have full PP for a new stadium
Wakey have not had outline ratified yet. They are not further along.
Cas have had more Eng internationals and have developed more players.
Wakey are just 2 pts above us this season but I believe have finished below us in 2/3 of the last licensing rounds.

On most of these -bar stadia- which is out of our control and we are funding entirely ourselves, we are above Salford and London. Widnes are difficult based on one season.

The fact is teams such as Cas, Wakey, Salford, London would not not be a big loss to SL. Obviously there own fans would be annoyed if the RFL kicked them out of the league, but they would not be a major loss. Bradford although in dire straits would be a major loss to SL.

Everybody knows the RFL wont kick London out of the league so Cas would be fighting it out with wakey and salford to stay in the league.

14 team league as going back to 12 would also mean having to go back to the play some teams 3 times and others twice which nobody liked, plus it would mean reducing the pathway into SL for young British talent. Scrap the magic weekend and a 29 week (26 rounds + 4 week playoff series) season is long enough.

I would go back to the 5 team playoff as IMO there really shouldn't be any more than a third of the league taking part in them. It would bring the exlusiveness back to the playoffs and the league should be more intense as teams would know that they could afford very few slip ups. At this stage of the season teams with more losses than wins shouldn't be any near playoff contention.

And yes I am including us in that.

Don't think Bradford would be a major loss; conversely, I think their loss would be the Championship's gain and the pull they would have to push the Championships more. I'm a believer that this game cannot move forward whilst the second division is semi-professional, has such a low cap etc. We need a strong second division to allow for free movement between divisions of clubs.

I'm not saying Bradford will do this - or any other big club for that fact - but it would certainly provide some sort of catalyst. Certainly more so than relegating a side like Cas or Wakey would.

And you asked who I thought should go down if it changed to 12. The bottom two of the season before it changes back. If I was to select two right now, I'd say Bulls and Salford based on all things considered over last licensing period and this in terms of the very vague criteria provided to us fans.

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Fully agree with that.
So you agree Cas will be one of the teams the RFL boot out then!!

No because London and Widnes are below us and the season hasn't finished so could be higher.

i'd go all out and cut the league down to 10 teams..with a top 5 play off


catalan
london
wigan
st helens
warrington
huddersfield
bradford
leeds
hull fc
hull kr

I really don't get the appeal of having a London team. Does having a team in the capital really bring more benefits than negatives to the league?

yep

Enlighten me

I have never read so much unadulterated rubbish in my life.
If the number of teams in Superleague is reduced further you then have even more disillusioned fans who will be lost to the game producing even more derisory attendances to go along with the alarming lack of interest already evident in Championship 1 and 2.
As someone has already stated the number of pro players will be reduced enormously and people will soon lose interest in a league where clubs play each other too often.
The public at large will look at the small number of clubs in a so called Superleague and come to the conclusion it cannot be so super.
Getting rid of clubs who who consistently produce local talent would also see that source of player production gradually wither away.
Lets consolidate what we have and make the game sustainable, maintaining at the same time traditions which make the game of Rugby League so special.

we need a presence in london......end of story

Oh ok then, I didn't realise it was so simple.

surprisingly it is that simple....

This.

The call to reduce the number of teams in SL is short-sighted and based on self-interest. If there is a genuine belief that we have a dearth of talent, SL teams should be compelled to do something about that - stricter rules around overseas players and a requirement to partner in a meaningful way with grassroots clubs would be a good start, along with some consideration of limiting the number of games each player can participate in, to force clubs to rotate their squads for reasons other than injury.

To base long term decisions about the future of the sport on a snapshot in time is just daft; there needs to be a 10 year plan that encourages (and compels) SL clubs to behave virtously for the good of the game, not just themselves.