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| Quote: Starbug "No, 24 game season, no Magic weekend either'"
We could do what we want really.
We dont have an straight home/away season now and havent for about 15 years, why would we be forced to now?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "We could do what we want really.
We dont have an straight home/away season now and havent for about 15 years, why would we be forced to now?'"
True it just seems ' fairer ' that way, then again, this is RL
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| Quote: Paul124897 "There's some twists and turns in this yet; At the fans meeting tonight a director of Greenwoods (one of the Bulls sponsors) turned up, and told everyone including the Administrator that he'd been trying to get in touch.
The administrators response - 'I don't have voicemail'.
Shoddy.'"
Only in Rugby League!
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| I guess Bull Man & Bull boy have gone the same way as the website
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| ((Its up to the clubs to run their ships properly, the Bulls gambled on bigger crowds and uplifted merchandise sales. It didnt pay off and they didnt balance their books and are now paying the price. This is NOTHING to do with the RFL in any way shape or form.))
The RFL granted them a licence with dodgy finances as they did with Crusaders so they have to share some of the blame.
((Attendences are up, viewing figures on TV are up, the league is even more competative than ever, the National side has genuine competition for places...yes, its in good shape.'" ]
Did you get those rose coloured specs from Specsavers or are you Richard Lewis in disguise Unfortunately the game is in a mess and is divided and is run by an inept bunch of buffoons.
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| Quote: WYSIWYG]Did you get those rose coloured specs from Specsavers or are you Richard Lewis in disguise Unfortunately the game is in a mess and is divided and is run by an inept bunch of buffoons.'"]
tell me how bad a condition the games is in....when say....compared to 1995?
Please feel free to list dates, accounts and other relevant statistics, because believe me, I have a shed load that says we are better off now than we were 17 years ago. "Did you get those rose coloured specs from Specsavers or are you Richard Lewis in disguise
tell me how bad a condition the games is in....when say....compared to 1995?
Please feel free to list dates, accounts and other relevant statistics, because believe me, I have a shed load that says we are better off now than we were 17 years ago.
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| I feel Voldemort Caisley's presence. The man who started the Bulls demise will be back to pick up a cheap deal. His associate was stood next to Guilfoyle at yesterday's meeting.
It's going to happen and he'll hail himself as a saviour and the RFL will lap it up and rubber stamp the new license. As you were by the end of August everyone . . . .
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| Quote: FearTheVee "What should the RFL have done? Kicked them out of SL and forced them into Administration earlier?'"
Yes. Would have saved a lot of hard-working people who are now creditors and unlikely to see a penny, not to mention those daft (and generous, passionate and fundamentally good) people who flushed £500k down the pan last month.
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| Quote: littlerich "I feel Voldemort Caisley's presence. The man who started the Bulls demise will be back to pick up a cheap deal. His associate was stood next to Guilfoyle at yesterday's meeting.
It's going to happen and he'll hail himself as a saviour and the RFL will lap it up and rubber stamp the new license. As you were by the end of August everyone . . . .'"
I think the same way come the first round of the 2013 season it will look very much the same as it did in 2012. I personally think that the Bulls should be relegated for getting into this mess and I thought the same with Wakey as well when they had theirs last year. But look what happened there admittidly from the outside looking in it would appear that Bradford is worse than Wakeys situation.
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| Quote: Paul124897 "More importantly, I'm pretty sure Greenwoods was bought out by very rich chinese firm.'"
A lot of people on here will scream that we shouldn't have 'benefactors' in the game.
Which is a load of garbage. Unlikely as it is, if one day some rich chinese guy loved League and wanted to plough money into Bradford we should let him go for it. For that matter he shouldn't have to worry about a hard salary cap either...provided that a) there's a limit to squad size and structure (so he can't buy all the best players, just 13 of them) b) he can't put the debt on the club, and c) 'cap' overspend is 'taxed' and put into grassroot rugby.
We need to encourage benefactors, not demonize them. Our sport lives in a fantasy world.
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| Quote: RLBandit "A lot of people on here will scream that we shouldn't have 'benefactors' in the game.
Which is a load of garbage. Unlikely as it is, if one day some rich chinese guy loved League and wanted to plough money into Bradford we should let him go for it. For that matter he shouldn't have to worry about a hard salary cap either...provided that a) there's a limit to squad size and structure (so he can't buy all the best players, just 13 of them) b) he can't put the debt on the club, and c) 'cap' overspend is 'taxed' and put into grassroot rugby.
We need to encourage benefactors, not demonize them. Our sport lives in a fantasy world.'"
If benefactors help clubs to become stronger off the pitch as opposed to just buying success on it then fine, but what does happen is clubs just end up relying on them and become lazy, all that does is weaken the club, and the sport
Quins/London are an example, read some of the threads on the LB board
Unlike many other sports our SC allows us to build susstainable clubs, it just needs tge hard work to be done, look at Ian Lenagan at w1g4n, he still works heavily at marketing his club, that is where we are lacking as a sport
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| Quote: littlerich "I feel Voldemort Caisley's presence. The man who started the Bulls demise will be back to pick up a cheap deal. His associate was stood next to Guilfoyle at yesterday's meeting.
It's going to happen and he'll hail himself as a saviour and the RFL will lap it up and rubber stamp the new license. As you were by the end of August everyone . . . .'"
Well now ' Potters ' gone , he's nobody to stop him
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| As a Bradford fan i am sickened by the way C***ley and his puppet are treating the players,employees and supporters of this great club and dragging its once good name through the gutter. I was so proud to be a Bulls fan on Friday shouting myself ho at Wigan, now i am just embarrassed.
Now is the hour for all true supporters to stand up and say enough is enough and band together to try and form a new team for 2013 in Championship 1. I would rather start again in the lower leagues and have the respect of other RL fans than possibly continue in SL with certain people running the club. I can't imagine it would cost that much to raise a team for CC1, certainly not £500K!
Come on Northern Bulls!
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| Quote: Starbug "If benefactors help clubs to become stronger off the pitch as opposed to just buying success on it then fine, but what does happen is clubs just end up relying on them and become lazy, all that does is weaken the club, and the sport
Quins/London are an example, read some of the threads on the LB board
Unlike many other sports our SC allows us to build susstainable clubs, it just needs tge hard work to be done, look at Ian Lenagan at w1g4n, he still works heavily at marketing his club, that is where we are lacking as a sport'"
OK, so a slight modification:
Spend what you like, provided:
a) Club's debt/income ratio is below a to-be-decided-and-enforced fixed amount. ( Benefactors can give money to their heart's content, but not as debt)
b) In any event, no more than 13 players on > £100k
c) No more than an additional 13 on > £40k
d) For every £1 spent over a 'soft cap' of say £1.5M, an additional £1 has to be invested into an externally audited club infrastructure fund, and an additional £1 given to a grass-roots fund managed by the RFL...but please can Nigel Wood go first
That way, when I win the Euromillions rollover I can put money into the game (knowing perfectly well it's unlikely to be the greatest 'investment' ever made) via an attempt to make sure my *own team* (we're all human) is brilliant, but without being guaranteed to succeed ( I can't just sweep up any half-decent player) , and in any case, benefiting the rest of the game too.
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| Quote: Starbug "Well now ' Potters ' gone , he's nobody to stop him
not much has made me chuckle this morning, but that did.
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