You seem to have decided you don't like franchising, but as far as I can see you haven't put forward a single argument for your favoured P&R system, just criticised the positives resulting from licensing using questionable logic or by pointing to completely unrelated issues. If you have any arguments for P&R or can explain how its reintroduction would benefit the game, then please go ahead. Simply attempting to dismiss or marginalize any negatives that are pointed out does not constitute a good argument for your position.

That pretty much sums up every thread on this subject

Ive set out positives of P+R and what I see as a better structure for the game. I see most posters on both sides as blind to a genuine discussion. I've set out negatives of licensing as there were several reasons given for introducing franchises but I've yet to see any of those in reality except for when franchise evangelists use other factors as a reason to credit the licensing system.

Please post them again then, as I must have missed them.

London - Dewsbury?
Keighley - Warrington?

Jesus, really? Dewsburya top championship side?

Keighley did well for an average championship side against a top super league side.

Warrington will beat super league teams by more than that.

You must try harder

Just got back from Hunslet v Batley. Good competitive game. Tough defences and very few errors, but sorry, I would have fancied Widnes, Wakey or London (even on a bad day) to put plenty past either team.

Featherstone played out of their skin on Saturday, in their biggest game in many many years and Castleford couldn't have been much worse on the day but believe me, there is still a massive gulf between the divisions.

Exactly, Play that game every week, I bet Cas win 8 out of 10.

Cas were dreadful for the last 30 minutes of the first half, And the sin binning totally turned the game, And we never recovered.


Fwiw. I think Fev should be given a shot in SL, Once they have put up their 2 new stands, But not in place of Cas. Who do still have one of the most impressive youth systems in the country.

No Fev fan wants to replace Cas if theyre given a shot at SL...