I do not have a chip on my shoulder , however like you point out a crystal ball is needed to call who will win what, and your post implied Ellis would not win any silverware whilst at FC. FC are clearly building under our new owner, and new coach and my point is who is to say FC will not build a competitive team like Wire did in the next couple of seasons and mount a serious challenge resulting in silverware.

He did nothing at Fax i doubt he will be great in SL.

And your source for this information is....

Oh, wait - you don't have one. It's pure guesswork.

Or wishful thinking maybe.

Is it??

The only thing that I've seen in the public domain is Gentle saying "he opted for us over potentially some more lucrative offers". Neither a definitively worded statement nor an impartial source...

Kosh beat to it, but on the basis you seem to have ignored 99% of the facts on offer and also make some sweeping assumptions I'll give some information.

Firstly try reading my original post again.

Ellis is building block, albeit a massive one. Hull said they had 60k left on this years cap. They have a number of players out of contract at the end of the season, two of which are expected to leave let alone the others.

Gary hetherington does run a good tight ship, fair play. But let's face it, Leeds pack needs overhauling at the end of the season and now you have missed out on what is probably the best British forward in the game whom was actively wanting to come back to his roots but to an ambitious club.

Seems to me to speak volumes about Leeds ambitions?

But then again could it be anything to do with the EBT bill your club could face which may hinder spending in the near future?

Either way, if it didn't bother you, you wouldn't have felt the need to post some rubbish on this thread.

Quite why any of my fellow Hull fans are bothered what about some bitter Leeds fans think is beyond me. The sensible ones are of the same opinion as the Hull fans were yesterday. Amazing player that would get into any team but possibly the salary cap could be put to better use. As it happens I think the fact we have managed to sign Ellis is more important than the signing itself. Ellis won't be the final piece of the puzzle for us but he could certainly be the catalyst for building something special.

By that are you suggesting that the quote from a Hull FC official is a lie?

nope kath and jamies signed those players

Why does Leeds' pack need overhauling for next season? We are losing Leuluai but have already signed Griffin and Moore (plus we have Peacock, Bailey, Kirke and possibly Ambler and/or Amor).

As for the back row, I think a bigger problem for Leeds re-signing Ellis is what to do with the other players - we already have Delaney, Ablett, JJB, Clarkson, Hauraki and Pitts fighting it out, with Ward an exicting prospect. The only way Leeds could have signed Ellis is if they got rid of someone else (probably more than one).

My issue with Leeds is we now have depth in the pack without having a genuine impact player, and we may have a logjam of reasonable but not outstanding forwards over the next few seasons.

Anyway, back on topic, I think its great that a world class player has signed for Hull. I hope he's great for them.

Good signing, he is in great form for Wests though he does seem to be increasingly injury prone.

Think Hull fans are kidding themselves if they don;t think he took the biggest pay deal, maybe the others were for two years and this one three but ultimately the money would have been the most as no player at the back end of their career is going to take a lower pay offer because they "like what the chairman had to say"!

No I'm saying when you actually read what was said it's fairly meaningless (what the hell does "potentially" mean)...

...do we know what clubs these other offers were from, what length of contract other clubs offered, how they structure their pay vs bonuses etc etc

I agree with the above



But this is utter nonsense