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| Quote: Odem "So the 2010 play-off didn't matter? Would Leeds have won if it did?
I'm pretty sure the 3 games between the two sides in 2011 mattered to the players, even if they didn't to you.
Your coach admitted after the game on saturday that it did matter. They were planning to win as preparation for the WCC as winning is a habit.
From memory, Leeds despatched us out of the play-offs in 2004, 2007 and 2008. We despatched Leeds out in 1998, 2002, 2003 and 2010. That is more times than Leeds have 'despatched' us.'"
All games should matter to a top team like Leeds. Whether its humping 70 points past you on a lovely summer's evening, or turning over Saints for the umpteenth time at Old Trafford. It's just occasionally along the way in our 8 year run of SuperLeague excellence, one of the other teams gets a result!
It must be cold there in our shadow.....I'd wear a woolley hat my boy!
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| Quote: BillyRhino "All games should matter to a top team like Leeds. Whether its humping 70 points past you on a lovely summer's evening, or turning over Saints for the umpteenth time at Old Trafford. It's just occasionally along the way in our 8 year run of SuperLeague excellence, one of the other teams gets a result!
It must be cold there in our shadow.....I'd wear a woolley hat my boy!
You have a long way to go before we could be even close to being cold in your shadow I'm afraid
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| Quote: SmokeyTA " Wigan win games, leeds win trophies, thats absolutely fine with me, i hope it carries on forever.'"
Wigan 3 trophies in last 2 seasons
Leeds 1 trophy in last 2 seasons
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| Quote: BillyRhino "All games should matter to a top team like Leeds. Whether its humping 70 points past you on a lovely summer's evening, or turning over Saints for the umpteenth time at Old Trafford. It's just occasionally along the way in our 8 year run of SuperLeague excellence, one of the other teams gets a result!
It must be cold there in our shadow.....I'd wear a woolley hat my boy!
Guffaw!!
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| Quote: Finfin "Wigan 3 trophies in last 2 seasons
Leeds 1 trophy in last 2 seasons'"
And Leeds 9 trophies in the last 8 seasons, Wigan 3.
When Wigan were a big club, not losing to Leeds in 5 games wasnt something anyone noticed. But being the 4th most successful team in the country for a decade seems to have lowered the ambition of some Wigan fans.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "And Leeds 9 trophies in the last 8 seasons, Wigan 3.
When Wigan were a big club, not losing to Leeds in 5 games wasnt something anyone noticed. But being the 4th most successful team in the country for a decade seems to have lowered the ambition of some Wigan fans.'"
If you are bring in things from 8 seasons ago, can we bring in stuff from the last 30 seasons? It is classed as 'history' just the same as something from 8 seasons ago.
Other fans are always very selective about which parts of history they would like to include. You just proved that point.
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| Quote: Odem "If you are bring in things from 8 seasons ago, can we bring in stuff from the last 30 seasons? It is classed as 'history' just the same as something from 8 seasons ago.
Other fans are always very selective about which parts of history they would like to include. You just proved that point.'"
Wow!
Did it never occur to you there was a reason i chose that particular time frame? Maybe because of the post I quoted? Maybe, I dont know, someone picking say 2 years because it included Wigans one good season this decade?
But if you think what Wigan achieved with a completely different squad, in a largely semi-pro game, 30 years ago is as relevant as what this leeds squad, of which the nucleus has stayed the same has achieved over the last 8 then crack on. But im not sure what you think your argument will gain now by harking back to an era long passed.
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| Quote: BillyRhino "All games should matter to a top team like Leeds. Whether its humping 70 points past you on a lovely summer's evening, or turning over Saints for the umpteenth time at Old Trafford. It's just occasionally along the way in our 8 year run of SuperLeague excellence, one of the other teams gets a result!
It must be cold there in our shadow.....I'd wear a woolley hat my boy!
We're not cold. We're keeping nice and warm in the hot air that you lot generate. We don't want to listen to "my dad's bigger than your dad" arguments.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "We're not cold. We're keeping nice and warm in the hot air that you lot generate. We don't want to listen to "my dad's bigger than your dad" arguments.'"
But my dick is bigger than yours, is a very good argument. Lets get the yardsticks out!
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| Quote: fatbaztod100 "But my dick is bigger than yours, is a very good argument. Lets get the yardsticks out!'"
Agree it's all a bit embarrassing really.
Wigan do have a successful history.
Leeds have a successful history and have archieved since 2004 more than I ever thought they would.
We lost on Saturday. The ref was crap but in no way effected the result Wigan deserved to win. I personally don't care how many times we knocked Wigan out or how many big games they have beaten us in. All a bit school yard.
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| Quote: Ferdy "Agree it's all a bit embarrassing really.
Wigan do have a successful history.
Leeds have a successful history and have archieved since 2004 more than I ever thought they would.
We lost on Saturday. The ref was crap but in no way effected the result Wigan deserved to win. I personally don't care how many times we knocked Wigan out or how many big games they have beaten us in. All a bit school yard.'"
Correct, it really bothers me when our fans bring out this 'Forever in our shadow' business. It's childish. Yes we have been very successful, but all that really matters is the present.
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| Quote: Odem "If you are bring in things from 8 seasons ago, can we bring in stuff from the last 30 seasons? It is classed as 'history' just the same as something from 8 seasons ago.
Other fans are always very selective about which parts of history they would like to include. You just proved that point.'"
I'm not really wanting to enter a debate with you, but I'd say you can go back in history as far as if the same players were playing at the time. Moving back 30 years is a totally different era when many of the players where not born yet or below 5 years old.
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| Quote: Sibbs Rhinos "I'm not really wanting to enter a debate with you, but I'd say you can go back in history as far as if the same players were playing at the time. Moving back 30 years is a totally different era when many of the players where not born yet or below 5 years old.'"
Not that I really want to get involved with the subject, but isn't that simply, once again, changing the goalposts to suit your bias? And no different to a Wigan fan picking 2 or 30 years.
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| Quote: Enicomb "Not that I really want to get involved with the subject, but isn't that simply, once again, changing the goalposts to suit your bias? And no different to a Wigan fan picking 2 or 30 years.'"
Not quite, the reason being I thought we were measuring 'recent' success. And by 'recent' i would say you can go as far back as when a majority of the players playing today were playing then. Going back 30 years is a period when none on the players today would have been playing, so is hardly 'recent' in a playing sense.
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| Quote: Father Ted "Thought the last time Wigan played Leeds in the play offs Wigan won.
Wigan then went on to win the Grand Final.
Leeds beat Wigan in the play offs two weeks prior to that game.
Since Leeds beat Wigan in that first play off game they have met five times and Leeds haven't won any!'"
Saints have beaten us plenty of times too. We really do struggle.
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