You really should learn to spell like an adult before you go accusing others of being juvenile.

I agree we need to clear out the old if we want to move forward, Morely and Peacock have been great and will be a big loss but its time to look to the future bring in the next set of players, if the replacements fail then what have we lost.

All the others should be considered on merit going into the next series.

You'll never beat the club colours boys on here Clan, they will defend at all costs.

i have read most the posts on hear and i have got to say i agree with them i would not have chase anywhere near my England team and it has got nothing to do with him been a N Zealander he is crap and wile you are at it get a decent coach but were from i don't know but something has to be done

Correct. Waste of time trying really.

Think we can all see that Peacock and Morley are falling short of the standards they have set in the past. However untill there are other players who can come in and take up their roll then they will still get picked. When Burgess finally gets himself fit he will be one of the first names on the sheet and rightly so.
Hock shouldn't be anywhere near an England shirt. If Brough had stayed fit and remained in form he would have been picked, but Australia still wouldn't have let him kick.
If we were to throw Watkins and Hardaker in now the result would be a shambles, but both have great potential.
Hopefully Lomax and Gaskell can continue to develop a partnership at Saints this year, but once more it would be too much too soon to throw them in now.
Think it's a shame Burrow was injured for the series, he was electric back end of the year and could have added that spark off the bench we were lacking.

Along with peacock, briscoe and yeaman have been shocking, for a winger briscoe has no pase and he is not strong enough. McGilvary is the player who should be infront of him.

England's biggest problem was the total lack of impact off the bench. No point of Widdop been there, get Robinson off the bench to replace roby. Carvel should stay, westwood and burgess when he is fit.

Widdop should start, very dissappointed that he didnt get more of a chance. On the subject of Peacock and Morley both should now retire. They have been great players but their international career has come to an end. Not a criticism of their performance this series but we need to build for the furture now and particularly the 2013 World Cup.

I agree Widdop should start but coming off the bench is pointless

Completely agree

Sinfield was shocking (again) should have been benched after 25mins and the NRL minor premiers No6 put on. Not sure who was worse Sinfield or McNamara for even playing him in front of Widdop. Agree Widdop/Brough should have been our halfbacks from the start.

Carefull fella, you'll have the Amber & Blue Chav brigade after you.
Don't you know it's impossible to criticise a Whino without having a club bias and a huge chip on your shoulder.

Sinfield was awfull yesterday, JJB was poor, Peacock should now retire from rep football, Hall was OK and had a very good series.

Certainly was - his kicking game in particular was absolutely woeful; bad decisions, poorly executed resulting in no threat whatsoever from just about every kick.

Given that Lee Briers kicked them to death for half an hour last week in a team of part-timers, you'd have thought we might have learned something from that in terms of a potential chink in the armour.

Widdop and Brough have to be the partnership for 2013, with the Sinfield and Chase experiment consigned to the 'embarassing failures' folder.

But Brough was hardly setting the game alight for the second half of the season was he? He goes through the same process every year, starts well but by the last ten games of the season looks like he's had enough and starts to become anonymous.
Perhaps Brown should leave him out for the first ten games, then he might still be interested come the play-offs?

England's main problem is a failure to play players in their proper positions.
We had a second-rower playing at loose forward.
A loose forward playing at stand off.
The best stand off and MOS playing at scrum half and second receiver, when he plays 1st receiver for his club.
And the NRL minor premiership team's stand-off on the bench (he would be a better 7 than Chase as he generally plays 2nd receiver for Melbourne).
We seem to pick our players by making a list of the best 17 players and adapting positions to fit.
Australis pick their players by looking at each position and choosing the best player for each.

Perhaps Brough was rushed back too early from a serious injury and was then expected to revitalise a woefully out of form Giants team all on his own.
Brown did him no favours by pressuring him into coming back early but given a few weeks off at the end of the season he would have been firing on all cylinders for England.