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| Ryan Hall is the best winger in uk. proven not good enough. done nothing this year. don't make me laugh. 106 career tries in 116 games for leeds. 23 tries this season playing in an average Leeds side with no specialist centre inside him. he should be a shoe in for England.
Quote: Ronnie Neale "People are putting these combinations in of centres and wingers but you are forgetting who we have in charge, it's steve mcnamara.
Hall is a certainty. He has played international for years despite being proven not good enough. McBanana will play him despite not really doing anything this season he will we base it on form in the past.
Bridge is a certainty. He has also played previously and therefore McBanana will pick him.
Briscoe will be picked and is the stand out candidate for the other wing and IMO should be playing there.
The other spot could go to anyone, I suspect Mcnamara will play Shenton there because he has played there previously
If you wanted my opinion I'd have
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| Quote: rollin thunder "Ryan Hall is the best winger in uk. proven not good enough. done nothing this year. don't make me laugh. 106 career tries in 116 games for leeds. 23 tries this season playing in an average Leeds side with no specialist centre inside him. he should be a shoe in for England.
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Ryan Hall is a good winger, no doubt about that but Briscoe is significantly better – if Briscoe had played on the left wing for Leeds over the last 3 seasons, he would have had a hatful
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| fantastic player Tom Briscoe him and hall are the best wingers in league. still think Briscoe is a centre. down to opinion but for me hall edges it as an out an out winger
Quote: Dunbar "Ryan Hall is a good winger, no doubt about that but Briscoe is significantly better – if Briscoe had played on the left wing for Leeds over the last 3 seasons, he would have had a hatful'"
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| Oh Krissy Welham
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| Quote: MrPhilb "Oh Krissy Welham'"
What about him?
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "What about him?'"
Ermm two good tries in france tonight and some awesome defence to boot. Ohh and did I mention his 25 tries so far this season?
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| Quote: Easty "Ermm two good tries in france tonight and some awesome defence to boot. Ohh and did I mention his 25 tries so far this season?'"
What about the rest of the season were his season has been awful? I don't think he'll be considered for a long time until he can sort his defence out.
You've got to admit, it is poor.
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "What about the rest of the season were his season has been awful? I don't think he'll be considered for a long time until he can sort his defence out.
You've got to admit, it is poor.'"
In your eyes but that's only to be expected. He's been the best of the three Hull players considered so far
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| Quote: A unknown superstar "What about the rest of the season were his season has been awful? I don't think he'll be considered for a long time until he can sort his defence out.
You've got to admit, it is poor.'"
I don't have to admit it actually. I will admit that he's had a few poor reads but these are getting few and far between. What used to be very bad was his one on one tackling and for the latter part of this season it's being very very good.
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| The stats are poor reading for Kris Welham but he has been far from poor in defence with most of his missed tackles coming from poor reads but have rarely been costly to the team. He makes many a try saving tackle when everyone else has pretty much given up, something I think he's learnt from Briscoe over the years.
Kris used to play full back too and with him being a similar size and weight to the Aussie centres he should do pretty well in the air against their number one kicking tactic.
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| Quote: MrPhilb "In your eyes but that's only to be expected. He's been the best of the three Hull players considered so far'"
Again that's in your opinion. So why do you think that he is the best choice out of the three? Yeaman has scored only 4 tries less than him upto now and playing two games less. His wing partner has scored 18 too, showing he can put his winger away too. Brilliant defence compared to Welhams and it shows with Welhams 60+ missed tackles compared to Yeamos 20.
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| Quote: nick hkr "The stats are poor reading for Kris Welham but he has been far from poor in defence with most of his missed tackles coming from poor reads but have rarely been costly to the team. He makes many a try saving tackle when everyone else has pretty much given up, something I think he's learnt from Briscoe over the years.
Kris used to play full back too and with him being a similar size and weight to the Aussie centres he should do pretty well in the air against their number one kicking tactic.'"
So you think Welham is the same build to the likes of Justin Hodges, Inglis (yes I know he's not in the 4N's), Idris etc?
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| how about some of you go read the very first post?
we'd be better served keeping club partnerships together than chucking 4 individuals together
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| Quote: roughyedspud "how about some of you go read the very first post?
we'd be better served keeping club partnerships together than chucking 4 individuals together'"
By the looks of it, it'll be 2 individuals as Yeamo & Briscoe will be together.
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| His pre-season stats were 185cm and 91kg but he's still growing and I think they'll be different no we're at the back end of the season. Would be interesting to see what those others have?
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