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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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| Quote: Starbug "No it isn't , if you want a drop goal fest , watch RU , league games don't need a definite result , cup games do'"
How about golden try?
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and ENJOY your sport
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| At times it really is a wonder why anyone actually requires a game to be played on a field.
Why not bother, give all the home teams half a point and at the end of the season all have equal points, so decide the grand finalists on who has the prettiest seats and the best coloured shirt or something as arbitary.
Quite how you seperate them in a neutral venue is a challenge, but the people on here can usually come up with something.
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| I have a theory. Those that aren't bothered about draws will usually be happy to split an orange and share it with their mate. Those that don't like draws will peel it in their pocket and fake a cough for each segment they sneak down their gullet.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| Quote: af "Seen it or similar enough times, left me feeling 'meh'. Better than losing, not halfway to winning, and that's the point.'"
Yes, that is the point, and that's exactly why it's a draw! They've played well enough not to lose but not well enough to win. Both the league point and the "feeling" reflect this perfectly. Trying to artificially create a win out of what is, by any other definition, a draw is a bad idea, imo, and wouldn't change the essential result which is that neither team played well enough to win. In fact, all you're effectively proposing is to simply rename draws as home wins.
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| Anyone who thinks getting rid of draws in league games must be crazy! What's the point? Why is it so bad to draw? If your idea was to become reailty and hull won due to being at home, rugby league would be the biggest joke in the world!
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| no thanks, If one team cannot score more than the other then the points deserved to be shared.
Never do i come away from a draw in RL feeling disatisfied
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5414.jpg [quote="Bob Paisley":y3z7f3as]A lot of teams beat us, do a lap of honour and don't stop running. They live too long on one good result. I remember Jimmy Adamson crowing after Burnley had beaten us once and that his players were in a different league. At the end of the season they were.[/quote:y3z7f3as]
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| If it aint broke, don't fix it, crackpot idea.
there a few things that could improve RL, getting rid of draws isn't one of them.
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| Crackpot idea. Plus the logic of it is reversed - if anything, the away team should start with 1/2 point; they're the ones at a natural disadvantage, exactly as away teams are rewarded in football. You can't start a sporting competition with an uneven scoreboard.
If you really want to do away with draws without reverting to the drop-goalathon of golden point, there I see only one option. At the end of 80 minutes you enter 'Golden Try' time. Each team removes a player from the field at 80 minutes, and then either at every stoppage in play or every 2 minutes, another player is removed.
Teams would only win by scoring a try, thus removing the ridiculousness of a drop-goal competition. With reduced numbers a try would come fairly quickly.
Personally, I don't love draws but it's part of sport and RL draws are usually thrilling, especially the last 10 mins or so.
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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| There should ALWAYS be a winning side in any match.
Look at the disaster boreathon thats test cricket.
You can go 5 days and still not get a winner.
Golden point works well in the NRL and in my opinion it should be brought into superleague too.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "There should ALWAYS be a winning side in any match.
Look at the disaster boreathon thats test cricket.
You can go 5 days and still not get a winner.
Golden point works well in the NRL and in my opinion it should be brought into superleague too.'"
It isnt a fair representation of an 80 minute match when you prove you can kick a drop goal outside of that time limit. If you have a good drop goal specialist and get the ball from the kick off it can be all over in a few minutes.
And Cricket is a completely different paced sport, its comparing chalk and cheese.
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| Surely the whole point of sport is that the outcome is unknown, why try and influence that outcome? Aren't you taking away part of the excitement of the sport by giving the home team a points advantage?
Also from the excitement point of view, team A is trailing by 6 points with 10 seconds to go, do they chip over the top and chase? Nah, there's no point, they are 6.5 points behind. One of the most ridiculous ideas of read on here, and there has been a few.
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| 80 minutes is more than enough time to win a game. If neither side is able to in that time then why should they be awarded any more? A lost point could make all the difference for both sides at the end of the season.
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
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| Quote: Paull3v "It isnt a fair representation of an 80 minute match when you prove you can kick a drop goal outside of that time limit. If you have a good drop goal specialist and get the ball from the kick off it can be all over in a few minutes.
And Cricket is a completely different paced sport, its comparing chalk and cheese.'"
The point everyone seems to be missing is that 'golden point extra time' isn't simply about kicking a field goal
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| Quote: PHIPPS "The point everyone seems to be missing is that 'golden point extra time' isn't simply about kicking a field goal'"
But that would be the easiest/quickest way of scoring a point wouldn't it?
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50156_1266757028.jpg [b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5]
Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5]
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[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5]
[quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg |
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| Quote: Dave26 "But that would be the easiest/quickest way of scoring a point wouldn't it?'"
Not necessarily.
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