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| Starting to create some realy talented youngsters quins so hopefully this will generate interest in RL from an early age in London.
However when you compare 2,000 with 20,000+ sellouts at Wigan and hull it doesn't look great. Noted that the Quins game wasn't a derby in any sort but it still doesn't look great. Attendances is only one criteria of the franchising and hopefully they can build on this in the coming years like they have done to their academy.
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "
when you compare 2,000 with 20,000+ sellouts at Wigan and hull it doesn't look great. '"
Probably the most understated comment since someone once said Saddam Hussein wasn't that keen on the Kurds.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Probably the most understated comment since someone once said Saddam Hussein wasn't that keen on the Kurds.'"
I think different clubs should be set realistic goals to complete by a set date. The RFL need to tell Quins to increase the crowds, even if it is by 1000-2000. an increase is an increase and they can go from there. The more expanded our game is, the stronger its going to become, however it's only going to become stronger if you can build on a 3000 attendance after 15 years in top flight rugby. quins have failed to do so and something has to be done.
RFL will never kick them out i dont think. Its like an ongoing experiment which is going neither here or there. Like someone said the other week on the VT, 1/2 of the people with sky who watch the rugby league are based in the London area. Sky will never allow the RFL to kick them out for this alone.
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| Quote: Catalancs "Huddersfield and Wakefield fans knocking Harlequins RL for their crowds
Brilliant isn't it!
And how many clubs would fail without a rich benefactor...not just Quins.
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Brilliant isn't it!
And how many clubs would fail without a rich benefactor...not just Quins.'"
Sadly that's the case with many clubs in many sports. It's nothing new but only a few seem to have been able to come up with an alternative over the years.
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| Quote: PHIPPS "Disgraceful.
Time to end this shambles of a club now.
Seriously. What do they bring to SL?'"
As a 60+ year old, Northern male you would expect me to agree but I dont, They bring something the so called heartlands dont! a whacking great cash handout from SKY TV without the expansion clubs outside the M62 they would not pay anywhere near the amount they do & without that all but maybe three teams would go bust. You dont like them, maybe you dont care for our sport either? I support any one who wants to play our great game any place they want to whatever the standard, Turn your question round what do other teams bring to Harlequins? not much judging by the awway support that travels there. We in the north have had 116 years to build our teams & we are still dependant on SKY to stay afloat, you need to take a reality check.
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "I think different clubs should be set realistic goals to complete by a set date. The RFL need to tell Quins to increase the crowds, even if it is by 1000-2000. an increase is an increase and they can go from there. The more expanded our game is, the stronger its going to become, however it's only going to become stronger if you can build on a 3000 attendance after 15 years in top flight rugby. quins have failed to do so and something has to be done.
RFL will never kick them out i dont think. Its like an ongoing experiment which is going neither here or there. Like someone said the other week on the VT, 1/2 of the people with sky who watch the rugby league are based in the London area. Sky will never allow the RFL to kick them out for this alone.'"
I have never understood this argument that having a struggling club in London that no-one knows or cares about increases SKY subscriptions in the south.
the RL viewers in London yesterday will have tuned in to the Hull and Wigan-Saints derby's because it is a good TV spectacle, I don't think it matters where the clubs are based.
For example: having a Premiership RU team based in Hull drawing 2K crowds woulden't make the slightest bit of difference to whether I watch Bath-Gloucester or not. If I thought watching Bath-Gloucester would be a good afternoons entertainment I'd watch it regardless.
I support expansion and feel that Catalans in particular have brought a lot to SL, but Quins in their current format/location bring nothing what so ever to the party.
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| Quote: Catalancs "Huddersfield and Wakefield fans knocking Harlequins RL for their crowds
where have huddersfield knocked quins crowds? if you're referrring to my previous post i wasn't knocking harlequins i said it's a shame that more people dont go because the fans that do go are very friendly,passionate and enthusiastic about the game i have got no problems with harlequins or their fans,like others i just want to see a succesful team in london attracting better support.
as for the huddersfield and wakefield comment,i fail to see the relevance as huddersfield are averagin over 8,000 and wakefield 6,500 or are you thinking its still 2004
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| Quote: Beverley red "As a 60+ year old, Northern male you would expect me to agree but I dont, They bring something the so called heartlands dont! a whacking great cash handout from SKY TV without the expansion clubs outside the M62 they would not pay anywhere near the amount they do & without that all but maybe three teams would go bust. You dont like them, maybe you dont care for our sport either? I support any one who wants to play our great game any place they want to whatever the standard, Turn your question round what do other teams bring to Harlequins? not much judging by the awway support that travels there. We in the north have had 116 years to build our teams & we are still dependant on SKY to stay afloat, you need to take a reality check.'"
Do you ever drink in the 'Cornerhouse' by the bus stop?
I like Beverley.
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| Quote: Beverley red "As a 60+ year old, Northern male you would expect me to agree but I dont, They bring something the so called heartlands dont! a whacking great cash handout from SKY TV without the expansion clubs outside the M62 they would not pay anywhere near the amount they do & without that all but maybe three teams would go bust. You dont like them, maybe you dont care for our sport either? I support any one who wants to play our great game any place they want to whatever the standard, Turn your question round what do other teams bring to Harlequins? not much judging by the awway support that travels there. We in the north have had 116 years to build our teams & we are still dependant on SKY to stay afloat, you need to take a reality check.'"
Do you have a ' link ' that proves this , no London , no SKY money premise ?
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| I have and it comes from the Quins Chairman
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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "Brilliant isn't it!
And how many clubs would fail without a rich benefactor...not just Quins.'"
All of them!!!
Rupert Murdoch has deep pockets
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| Quote: Dunbar "St. George's Day game 2010 - Wasps vs. Bath, 60,208
St. George's Day game 2011 - Wasps vs. Bath, 38,074
A good gate but they would have to worry about the drop off'"
Quote: Dunbar "**Public holiday/Tube Strike/Bus Strike/People saving up for the Royal Wedding next week/too hot/Too cold/pollen count too high/football was on/easter weekend/the economy
**Delete as applicable.'"
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| Quote: Catalancs "Huddersfield and Wakefield fans knocking Harlequins RL for their crowds
Huddersfield 2011 Average: 8,186
Harlequins 2011 Average: 2,786
Wakefield 2011 Average: 6,519
I'd be quiet if I were you.
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| Quote: Conorgiantsfan "Huddersfield 2011 Average
You aren't me flower but I'm sure you'll get over that some day.
Two historical clubs with generations of tradition that have struggled to reach five figure crowds in recent years. I think it was a fair comment. In an ideal world all three clubs would be playing to even bigger crowds but it takes hard work behind the scenes, community interaction, discounted (sometimes heavily) season tickets and a host of other innovation and factors.
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