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| Quote: chissitt "That would be Bigalf from Cas ![]()
Oi!! Keep me out of this thank's 
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| Quote: HatedAndAdored "So you've studied the Widnes Vikings 2012 franchise bid in great detail then to come to this conclusion I take it? Because you certainly seem to be an expert on the subject.'"
I haven't said anything about the Widnes franchise bid. HTH |
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| Quote: littlerich "Ergo, Widnes are ahead of Castleford. '"
Having a new (ish) stadium is not the only element of the franchise application. HTH |
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| Quote: chissitt "Apart from the regulars, who has won anything in the SL era?, their crowds are comparable with half the teams in SL and given their location and competition compare most favourably with the so called big clubs. As for a long term period in the championship thats where they differ from you because having been relegated twice[and before you say anything once under the same circumstances as you] they were good enough to get out of that division TWICE. You had the opportunity before in SL and failed miserably thats why you are where you are at the moment, unlike Cas what has managed the play offs in their extended run in the SL and thats with using their own junior development not players on dual contract, sorry squire the only thing you and the number of other clubs in the championship can compete with Cas is with your posh toilets.'"
Absolutely spot on, but I wasn't ever saying that Widnes shouldn't be in SL (they should, imo), just that I don't understand why Cas are amongst the favourites for the drop when they have a sound business platform (without a sugar daddy), consistently challenge for the playoffs, and have one of the best youth systems in the league. |
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| Quote: chissitt "Apart from the regulars, who has won anything in the SL era?, their crowds are comparable with half the teams in SL and given their location and competition compare most favourably with the so called big clubs. As for a long term period in the championship thats where they differ from you because having been relegated twice[and before you say anything once under the same circumstances as you] they were good enough to get out of that division TWICE. You had the opportunity before in SL and failed miserably thats why you are where you are at the moment, unlike Cas what has managed the play offs in their extended run in the SL and thats with using their own junior development not players on dual contract, sorry squire the only thing you and the number of other clubs in the championship can compete with Cas is with your posh toilets.'"
Thanks for that mate...
My point is that if you are doing all you can to follow the franchise ethos, and Red Hall decide without seeing anybodys application bid that it is time for a change how can anyone be happy with that decision?
By announcing it the way they have it makes a mockery, you could have the situation of everyone sitting on an 'A' grade and someone still dropping out if the RFL stuck to their words. |
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Is this another thead where 90% of the posts are works of pure fantasy?
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| Quote: Gazemous "Absolutely spot on, but I wasn't ever saying that Widnes shouldn't be in SL (they should, imo), just that I don't understand why Cas are amongst the favourites for the drop when they have a sound business platform (without a sugar daddy), consistently challenge for the playoffs, and have one of the best youth systems in the league.'"
It is easier to get into the playoffs with the top 8 guaranteed, and your academy was not in group A like Widnes, who also won it.To be honest Castleford always brought a decent away support to Widnes.So if i was picking the weak clubs i say Wakefield,Salford,Celtic, and Harlequins but they seem to like expansion the RFL. In my eyes Swinton,Wigan, and Oldham are close to Manchester,and makes me laugh that Salford are saved with this tag.In my opinion Salford is mainly Manchester United, and breeds football.  |
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| Quote: Code13 "Is this another thead where 90% of the posts are works of pure fantasy?'"
With 27,595 posts you should know better than most on here, it will probably help with you posting on the Hudds board as well |
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Thats true, the amount of utter guff posters from other clubs come out with about the Giants truly is quite impressive at times.
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Point 1, the RFL press release mentioned on this thread stated that a Chp club would be promoted IF they met the criteria, not one was guaranteed to come up anyway regardless which seems to have been banded about on these forums a lot.
Point 2, if it was simply a pretty seats race then both Leigh and Widnes would have been in 2 years ago, its not, it never has been and never will be
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| Quote: OFFTHECUFF "It is easier to get into the playoffs with the top 8 guaranteed, and your academy was not in group A like Widnes, who also won it.To be honest Castleford always brought a decent away support to Widnes.So if i was picking the weak clubs i say Wakefield,Salford,Celtic, and Harlequins but they seem to like expansion the RFL. In my eyes Swinton,Wigan, and Oldham are close to Manchester,and makes me laugh that Salford are saved with this tag.In my opinion Salford is mainly Manchester United, and breeds football. ![]()
Try as I may I cannot make head nor tail of this thread especially the underlined bit, I was also under the impression that there was no league status for the u18s this season so how can they have won it. As a matter of interest where were the Widnes academy last year when Wakey won it against such opposition as Wigin,Wire and Cas, now if you had won it in that company then you could have been really proud of the achievement. Cannot comment on the rest though cannot understand it really 
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| Quote: Code13 "Thats true, the amount of utter guff posters from other clubs come out with about the Giants truly is quite impressive at times.'"
Spot on there squire, we can't be wrong all the time though,  or can we?  |
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| Quote: Dico "Point 1, the RFL press release mentioned on this thread stated that a Chp club would be promoted IF they met the criteria, not one was guaranteed to come up anyway regardless which seems to have been banded about on these forums a lot.
Point 2, if it was simply a pretty seats race then both Leigh and Widnes would have been in 2 years ago, its not, it never has been and never will be'"
Right then so how much of your hard earned money are you prepared to wager that Widnes will not get a licence in 2011 |
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Widnes will be in on performance across the board, not just pretty seats.
leighs stadium's nicer and technologically better so why werent they in 2008? Because although a stadium and facilities are important they arent the be all and end all. theres probably 5 or 6 chp clubs with better grounds than Belle Vue. Simples
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| Quote: chissitt "Try as I may I cannot make head nor tail of this thread especially the underlined bit, I was also under the impression that there was no league status for the u18s this season so how can they have won it. As a matter of interest where were the Widnes academy last year when Wakey won it against such opposition as Wigin,Wire and Cas, now if you had won it in that company then you could have been really proud of the achievement. Cannot comment on the rest though cannot understand it really ![]()
firstly, most of them were minors last year when wakey won it, so they would probably have been in school. certainly not old enuff to play in the academy last year (many of them) and secondly the only difference between our academy teams season and wakeys last year is that wakey got a trophy for their efforts. widnes finished top of the pile, they won it, just didnt get a shiney piece of metal for it. oh and you mean winning it in the company of Leeds, Wigan and st helens? yes, obvioulsy hammering those teams means nothing because we didnt beat wakey. of course. oh hang on, wakey did so badly in the league portion of the season they didnt get into the top group with widnes, thats why. by that logic wigan are because they didnt beat wakey in the grand final.
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