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| Quote: LyndsayGill "[
The Guinness Premiership last weekly round had all but one game postponed so there isn't any like-for-like figures but their last round, round twelve, saw these figures
I read that an average of 11358 people are prepared to watch 4. One day the RFL and clubs will get their acts together a bit better with regard to the marketing of the game.
It's all right us saying that most of them are just there for the jolly and don't understand the game, but at the end of the day most of them have parted with cash to attend.
Would that we could get a lot of people turning up just for the jolly.'" ]
3 comments...
1. Source?
2. What is the average over 12 rounds?
3. "16,500" sounds very rounded.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: dally messenger "the soft c**k attitude they have towards union'"
I am confused
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| Quote: gutterfax "OK......SKY want the game to grow. The RFL want the game to grow (to keep sky happy). Most fans want the game to grow (regardless of what Sky/RFL want) so why not try this.....
GIVE the BBC/ITV/5 or 4 the broadcasting rights to 1 Saturday/Sunday afternoon game a week. One 3pm kick off that doesn't clash with SKY's coverage. Not a financial money spinner for anyone involved, but what it would do is give the British Public...(and by that I mean the ones who have either stopped going to soccer because it's too expensive, stopped going to union because it's like watching paint dry or just stopped going to sport for whatever reason) a chance to see how good the game can be. The BBC also have to be MADE TO PUT THE SL Show on Nationally at a reasonable time......either that, or give it to one of the other stations.
Whilst SuperLeague is only shown on SKY the game will always be considered a regional sport.'"
that's the trouble when you sell your sport for an exclusive deal for 50 or 60 million or whatever it was its not yours to give to anybody. like them or loathe them superleague is sky's property until the TV deal runs out and any crumbs that are offered by way of limited highlights on terrestrial TV are purely at sky's discretion. Without that exclusive deal we wouldn't have got the amount of money to prop our clubs up in a superleague.
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: sandy "that's the trouble when you sell your sport for an exclusive deal for 50 or 60 million or whatever it was its not yours to give to anybody. like them or loathe them superleague is sky's property until the TV deal runs out and any crumbs that are offered by way of limited highlights on terrestrial TV are purely at sky's discretion. Without that exclusive deal we wouldn't have got the amount of money to prop our clubs up in a superleague.
My point was that in the Long run it would benefit SKY. They would get to keep their ad revenue from the scheduled games and if, say the BBC were to show a game every Saturday at 3pm, it may attract more media attention to the game, ergo, more coverage, ergo, more fans. I never had Sky TV until I became London Broncos fan. I had binned soccer, given up going to London Irish but once I became a fan of RL, I looked forward to the games on Friday and Saturday nights.
I am not saying SKY should carry the Outside Broadcast.....but if there was, say Bradford v Saints on BBC this Sunday I would lay odds that the audience figures would beat friday and saturdays combined. Any "potential" loss of gate revenue argued by the bulls could be off-set against the increased revenue from the hoardings/sponsorship at the game.
BBC win....they secure 28 games of top flight RL for little or no outlay
Sky win....they get THEIR GAME (they do own rl) shown to a MUCH wider audience
Clubs win....they get the opportunity to be showcased nationally.
If Italian Wendyball got good viewing figures for C4 on a Sunday Afternoon, then RL can do the same....
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| Quote: gutterfax "I am confused
union comes last in australia
A League soccer has overtaken it.
there is a lesson there for anybody that looks closely
and union had $50 million in cash reserves to promote itself
just about gone
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6679_1399761959.png [quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow]
[quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png |
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| Quote: dally messenger "union comes last in australia
A League soccer has overtaken it.
there is a lesson there for anybody that looks closely
and union had $50 million in cash reserves to promote itself
just about gone'"
I am fully aware that Union is 5th and soon to be possibly overtaken by Basketball........but that didn't stop Super 14 handing out a 5th franchise to even things up. The IRB will do everything in their power to shore up the ARU and believe me, as much as you aren't keen on Union, you wouldn't want to stand toe to toe with that lot financially on a global stage. Sevens is the key to their future and now it's a 5 ring sport, they will get the chance to be promoted to a far bigger audience than League could ever hope for.
On the flip side, if the new regulations on Gambling come in, the NRL will be too busy shi77ing themselves to notice what ARU are up to
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| Quote: dally messenger "union comes last in australia
A League soccer has overtaken it.
there is a lesson there for anybody that looks closely
and union had $50 million in cash reserves to promote itself
just about gone'"
By what criteria? Apart from Melbourne I'd say the S14 clubs are alot stronger in each city than the Aleague teams, and overall the S14 comp is more popular and has a higher income than the Aleague. Western Force made a $2million profit last year, which Aleague club managed that?
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| Quote: JB Down Under "By what criteria? Apart from Melbourne I'd say the S14 clubs are alot stronger in each city than the Aleague teams, and overall the S14 comp is more popular and has a higher income than the Aleague. Western Force made a $2million profit last year, which Aleague club managed that?'"
clearly you havent read the media reports on A League soccer relegating S14 to last on TV.
the soceroos crowds kill what union gets now too.
if you are talking about losing money, the NSWRU, QRU all lose millions too
so would the ARU if they didnt play a test match in hong kong
australia shows clearly that if you get the competition (RL) to a high standard union will die off.
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| Quote: gutterfax "I am fully aware that Union is 5th and soon to be possibly overtaken by Basketball........but that didn't stop Super 14 handing out a 5th franchise to even things up. The IRB will do everything in their power to shore up the ARU and believe me, as much as you aren't keen on Union, you wouldn't want to stand toe to toe with that lot financially on a global stage. Sevens is the key to their future and now it's a 5 ring sport, they will get the chance to be promoted to a far bigger audience than League could ever hope for.
On the flip side, if the new regulations on Gambling come in, the NRL will be too busy shi77ing themselves to notice what ARU are up to
The reason they created a fifth team was so that could buy more RL players and not look desperate (they are) and to try and desperately search for yet another remedy to their depth problem (cf: ARC - giggle).
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| Quote: dally messenger "clearly you havent read the media reports on A League soccer relegating S14 to last on TV.
the soceroos crowds kill what union gets now too.
if you are talking about losing money, the NSWRU, QRU all lose millions too
so would the ARU if they didnt play a test match in hong kong
australia shows clearly that if you get the competition (RL) to a high standard union will die off.'"
If your comparing Leagues then club for club the S14 clubs are still stronger than the Aleague clubs.
If your comparing soccer to union as codes then yes I would say soccer is ahead of Union which seems to be drifting into obscurity, and good riddance!
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| Quote: JB Down Under "If your comparing Leagues then club for club the S14 clubs are still stronger than the Aleague clubs.
If your comparing soccer to union as codes then yes I would say soccer is ahead of Union which seems to be drifting into obscurity, and good riddance!'"
yes im comparing different sports.
as i said before, union is the weakest football code in australia and has been overtaken by soccer.
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| Quote: gutterfax "
BBC win....they secure 28 games of top flight RL for little or no outlay
Sky win....they get THEIR GAME (they do own rl) shown to a MUCH wider audience
Clubs win....they get the opportunity to be showcased nationally.
If Italian Wendyball got good viewing figures for C4 on a Sunday Afternoon, then RL can do the same....'"
Better yet, give a game to a terrestrial channel with adverts, and have the first and last adverts in any lead up/half times/end before review as SKY adverts, so people can watch it for "free" and if they like it there can be a bloody great advert for where they can get more of it. That should be somewhat appealing to SKY also?
I sort of wish BBC/ITV would get their own sports channels on freeview, and just stick on any football shows/SL show etc during the daytime. I'm pretty sure they could get something out of that, and have more opportunity to show live games?
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| Quote: gutterfax "My point was that in the Long run it would benefit SKY. They would get to keep their ad revenue from the scheduled games and if, say the BBC were to show a game every Saturday at 3pm, it may attract more media attention to the game, ergo, more coverage, ergo, more fans. I never had Sky TV until I became London Broncos fan. I had binned soccer, given up going to London Irish but once I became a fan of RL, I looked forward to the games on Friday and Saturday nights.
I am not saying SKY should carry the Outside Broadcast.....but if there was, say Bradford v Saints on BBC this Sunday I would lay odds that the audience figures would beat friday and saturdays combined. Any "potential" loss of gate revenue argued by the bulls could be off-set against the increased revenue from the hoardings/sponsorship at the game.
BBC win....they secure 28 games of top flight RL for little or no outlay
Sky win....they get THEIR GAME (they do own rl) shown to a MUCH wider audience
Clubs win....they get the opportunity to be showcased nationally.
If Italian Wendyball got good viewing figures for C4 on a Sunday Afternoon, then RL can do the same....'"
Good idea in theory, would never happen in the real world unless they were forced to break up their exclusivity, but even if they could be persuaded to give up one game a week, i imagine Sky would want to keep the big games for themselves, leaving the Salford v Catalans or Wakefield v Harlequins (for example) which although could be a draw for regular RL fans, wouldn't be much of a draw for the casual sports fan.
Still it would be a shot to nothing for Sky, they could even produce it and sell it on cheaper or for a bit of free advertising if it went to ITV/Ch4/Ch5/Dave!
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| A national weekly highlights show on FTA at a decent time would be a good start. In fact showing the best bits of games will actually lead to more interest than showing full games initially.
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