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www.canberratimes.com.au/news/na ... 61290.aspx

an article on a proposed joint darwin / png team

its good that important nrl people are looking at this

a first step is a team in the queensland cup for a few years then an NRL team is a must

the RFL with poorer finances than us took a chance with wales

with our money we cant afford to neglect a RL mad nation on 6 million

AFL can put teams in places that dont care

weve got very important areas needing a team

id put PNG and nz ahead of adelaide, and just behind perth, queensland and central coast
www.canberratimes.com.au/news/na ... 61290.aspx

an article on a proposed joint darwin / png team

its good that important nrl people are looking at this

a first step is a team in the queensland cup for a few years then an NRL team is a must

the RFL with poorer finances than us took a chance with wales

with our money we cant afford to neglect a RL mad nation on 6 million

AFL can put teams in places that dont care

weve got very important areas needing a team

id put PNG and nz ahead of adelaide, and just behind perth, queensland and central coast


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maybe they should just shut the whole country down based on this extensive research

i went to melbourne a few years ago and saw someone get hit on the street. therefore they shouldnt have an NRL team



You should go over there and see what its like before making ill informed statements.
With your gob you may end up staying there.

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Quote: Jonesy "You should go over there and see what its like before making ill informed statements.
With your gob you may end up staying there.'"


so youve seen the whole country champ?

ill trust david gallop over you.

sorry

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Quote: Jonesy "You should go over there and see what its like before making ill informed statements.
With your gob you may end up staying there.'"


Well some of us have spent a lot of time "over there". We have regularly been to games and shockingly are still alive and uninjured. You are talking out of your rear end. Are you one of those cowards that hide behind the Australian High Commission walls trying to make the place sound more dangerous than it is so that you get paid more?

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Quote: dally messenger "so youve seen the whole country champ?

ill trust david gallop over you.

sorry'"


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There are pros and cons to this bid. Unlike any other bid however, these are the most extreme of pros and cons going. The pros would be it could build the economy up for PNG through this venture. More visitors (maybe not significantly more, but still more) more exposure, more sponsorship money. It could be the beginning of changing things over there.

The cons are that it's a third world country. There isn't much money over there. Security is a major risk. The actual club wouldn't make any money for a very very very long time, in fact it would cost an arm and a leg just to set up a stadium etc, not to mention security costs for EVERY game. Most of it would have to be run as a charity.

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Quote: dally messenger "so youve seen the whole country champ?

ill trust david gallop over you.

sorry'"


Would that be the same David Gallop that said this?

"There was unanimous support that the game needs to be able to grow the existing pie so that we can increase revenue for the existing clubs, increase payments for players and increase the amount we can invest in junior development," Mr Gallop said afterwards.

And this?

"You can't do those things and invest in expansion ... and until there is a strong business case for any expansion contributing to the growth of the competition, then it will not be part of [the NRL's] immediate plans."

I think we should be told. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Barnacle Bill "Would that be the same David Gallop that said this?

"There was unanimous support that the game needs to be able to grow the existing pie so that we can increase revenue for the existing clubs, increase payments for players and increase the amount we can invest in junior development," Mr Gallop said afterwards.

And this?

"You can't do those things and invest in expansion ... and until there is a strong business case for any expansion contributing to the growth of the competition, then it will not be part of [the NRL's] immediate plans."

I think we should be told.
good quotes youve pulled there. yep that is the same david gallop

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Quote: Barnacle Bill "Would that be the same David Gallop that said this?

"There was unanimous support that the game needs to be able to grow the existing pie so that we can increase revenue for the existing clubs, increase payments for players and increase the amount we can invest in junior development," Mr Gallop said afterwards.

And this?

"You can't do those things and invest in expansion ... and until there is a strong business case for any expansion contributing to the growth of the competition, then it will not be part of [the NRL's] immediate plans."

I think we should be told.
despite all their advantages after 100 years most NRL clubs still aren't financially sustainable and yet Dally has the cheek to have a go about Widnes!

Dally is in the 1% of Australins that think Gallop is doing a good job! (for RL not News Ltd that is!)

PNG is a pipe dream sadly.

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Quote: JB Down Under "despite all their advantages after 100 years most NRL clubs still aren't financially sustainable and yet Dally has the cheek to have a go about Widnes!

Dally is in the 1% of Australins that think Gallop is doing a good job! (for RL not News Ltd that is!)

PNG is a pipe dream sadly.'"

the only places mentioned as expasion chances are brisbane mark 2, rockhampton, central coast, PNG and nz mark 2.

covered all of em ey mate

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Quote: dally messenger "the only places mentioned as expasion chances are brisbane mark 2, rockhampton, central coast, PNG and nz mark 2.

covered all of em ey mate'"


Brisbane 2 - will happen but not for a few years and will be fought tooth and nail by the most pwerful club in the NRL
Rockhampton (pop 75,000) - small town mentality at its best, like admitting Barrow to SL
CC - will happen when a Sydney team goes bust and has to relocate. Like Leigh the suburban Bears have found their natural level.
PNG - la la land
Wellington - no bid, no interest expressed
oh yes then there is the 4th biggest and richest city in the country with its hand up!

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Quote: Beverley red "I have lived away from the league areas for a big part of my life & played Union a lot more than league, so points to note just because the games started out from the same roots & some aspects of our games are similar to think that they will turn up on mass & be converted is not true. A lot will attend a few games each year but most dont like League for the same way we dont like Union.
I have just watched the Barbarians NZ union game with some work mates. I get bored waiting for a scrum to take place they want more & they like the contest there. I think the number of penalties is a pain they think it is an art to get your oponents to commit an offence & win a penalty. From thier point our scrums are rubbish & the play the ball is a joke! where is the contest for the ball ? they say. I say when is someone going to make a tackle or score a try?. You have to treat the games as two totaly diferent entities. The way to expand is get kids playing & parents watching geting the game into schools & the minds of people in the chosen area. It is a long slow prosses & needs the whole of the game to buy into the idea.'"


I wasnt suggesting that union fans would en masse go over to league but if one in 10 union fans in wales could be converted we would have a significant fan base there. I agree with you about the schools being so important, i think theres something like 100 schools in wales playing rl now, if just 2 kids from every school become rl fans then we have 200 extra fans a year each one spreading the word of the game around wales and beyond, perhaps playing at some level and one day raising there own children to be rl fans. Doing things like this might take 20-30 years tp reap the full benefits buts those benefits will be massive.

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Quote: Ken Acker "Well some of us have spent a lot of time "over there". We have regularly been to games and shockingly are still alive and uninjured. You are talking out of your rear end. Are you one of those cowards that hide behind the Australian High Commission walls trying to make the place sound more dangerous than it is so that you get paid more?'"


I am not hiding behind anyone Mate.
I work for a company that has PNG as part of its territory and chooses not to send its staff there like many other big companies.
My old MD spent 20 years there and he had almost become like a native only with big racist attitudes.
If you live and like it there good on you but it is lower third world with hardly any law enforcement that would be considered the minimum in a first world country.
With no economy or cashed up residents how will it support a team?
As others have said no pay TV, Sponsorship or fan support other than expats in Oz?
Government money passed on from Oz aid?
Aid should be just that, if its redirected it will be cut off.
Thats a solid business plan.

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Quote: Jonesy "I am not hiding behind anyone Mate.
I work for a company that has PNG as part of its territory and chooses not to send its staff there like many other big companies.
My old MD spent 20 years there and he had almost become like a native only with big racist attitudes.
If you live and like it there good on you but it is lower third world with hardly any law enforcement that would be considered the minimum in a first world country.
With no economy or cashed up residents how will it support a team?
As others have said no pay TV, Sponsorship or fan support other than expats in Oz?
Government money passed on from Oz aid?
Aid should be just that, if its redirected it will be cut off.
Thats a solid business plan.'"


why would there be no TV revenues from PNG?

dont they have TVs over there?


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Quote: dally messenger "why would there be no TV revenues from PNG?

dont they have TVs over there?



yeo there going to pay $8mill a year for NRL rights. Oh hang on teh PNG TV's is worth very little and has a miniscule budget!

www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/20 ... 267994.htm

I am sure there will be 20,000 Kumuls happy to give up more than half their weekly wage to buy a ticket to the NRL!
www.wsws.org/articles/2001/feb2001/png-f26.shtml

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Quote: dally messenger "why would there be no TV revenues from PNG?

dont they have TVs over there?



yeo there going to pay $8mill a year for NRL rights. Oh hang on teh PNG TV's is worth very little and has a miniscule budget!

www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/20 ... 267994.htm

I am sure there will be 20,000 Kumuls happy to give up more than half their weekly wage to buy a ticket to the NRL!
www.wsws.org/articles/2001/feb2001/png-f26.shtml

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