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You would think that Toulouse will be the next French side in Superleague. The fast tracking of a Paris franchise team would be a serious double standard given the amount of hoops toulouse have had to jump through. I also can't see them having the time to build a team in time to fulfil the 2015 criteria via the Championship.
On the other hand Paris team should not be rejected out of hand. To have a sports team that is itself a successful expansion side behind the bid can only be good.
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| Quote: dally messenger "
So instead of admitting you were wrong for making a dumbass statement you come back with a sweeping generalised statement like that and a stupid smiley. I don't decry Toulouse and if you actually bother to read certain other people's posts (whom i assume you also perceieve to be flatcappers) most actually don't decry them either. It's your perceptions that are rabid and unfounded. I'm going to call you a kn[iobhea[/id again too because you deserve it.
Kno[ibhe[/iad.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Sod the two divisions. Get Toulouse in and Paris.
The likes of Salford, Leigh, Wakefield, Wigan and Widnes have had enough chances in Super League and never made the grade. Get rid of the dead wood from the competition and get some ambition and passion into it.
The Paris franchise is a must if it's as cashed up as it sounds, Toulouse look very capable of joining based on their crowds and performance in the Championship too.
Sod the flat cappers, lets make it interesting before it goes out of business altogether.'"
Go on , explain , they finished next to bottom despite having 5 quota players , as far as their attendances go they were reasonable , nothing more , despite several clubs taking a decent number of fans over to France , Leigh took around 400 out of a gate of 2,300 |
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| Quote: Starbug "Go on , explain , they finished next to bottom despite having 5 quota players , as far as their attendances go they were reasonable , nothing more , despite several clubs taking a decent number of fans over to France , Leigh took around 400 out of a gate of 2,300'"
They managed to get 1,900 locals to go and watch Leigh? Fantastic effort 
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| Quote: Catalancs "They managed to get 1,900 locals to go and watch Leigh? Fantastic effort 
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| Quote: Pepe "Looking at the Nosey Parker column in the League Weekly, it seems that the Stade Francais consortium are willing to be self financing and are not looking for any SL TV monies. If they can guarantee that, the RFL will be stupid to ignore it (given their love of expansion).
The RFL could justify the inclusion of Stade Francais by expanding the league to 15, which would cost them nothing to do. All the other clubs in SL wouldn’t lose a penny as a result, and no-ones SL place will have been lost as a result. The RFL get another French club with no cost – and a prestigious one at that. They could, potentially, be one of the wealthiest clubs in SL if their backers are as good as they seem to be. Poor old Carlos Zalduendo, and his club cannot match that.
So they would be less risky than Toulouse, who would require TV money and would need to hit the ground running, otherwise they could end up struggling financially like the Celtic Crusaders last season.
If this situation is as good as it appears – and that’s a very big [sizeif [/size– then it looks likely there’ll be a club based in Paris after 2011 in Super League. If Stade Francais get the go-ahead, they will have 2 years to prepare. This seems to be a very different situation from the usual ramshackle expansion clubs that lunge from one financial disaster to another. This offer looks like an RFL wet dream. This could be the real deal. ![]()
As long as they dump the Magic weekend
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| Quote: littlerich "So instead of admitting you were wrong for making a dumbass statement you come back with a sweeping generalised statement like that and a stupid smiley. I don't decry Toulouse and if you actually bother to read certain other people's posts (whom i assume you also perceieve to be flatcappers) most actually don't decry them either. It's your perceptions that are rabid and unfounded. I'm going to call you a kn[iobhea[/id again too because you deserve it.
Kno[ibhe[/iad.'"
i argue les cats are an expansion club.
but if idiots like you want to call them a heartland club then ill put it back on you and ask why people like you arent fans of the inclusion of toulose since they also must be a heartland club on the same dumb logic. |
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| Quote: Noel Cleal "You would think that Toulouse will be the next French side in Superleague. The fast tracking of a Paris franchise team would be a serious double standard given the amount of hoops toulouse have had to jump through. I also can't see them having the time to build a team in time to fulfil the 2015 criteria via the Championship.
On the other hand Paris team should not be rejected out of hand. To have a sports team that is itself a successful expansion side behind the bid can only be good.'"
just put them both in SL if their bids are strong enough.
especially if 3 french SL teams means a paying TV contract from a French TV station to cover the costs of these extra teams |
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| Quote: Pepe "Looking at the Nosey Parker column in the League Weekly, it seems that the Stade Francais consortium are willing to be self financing and are not looking for any SL TV monies. If they can guarantee that, the RFL will be stupid to ignore it (given their love of expansion).
The RFL could justify the inclusion of Stade Francais by expanding the league to 15, which would cost them nothing to do. All the other clubs in SL wouldn’t lose a penny as a result, and no-ones SL place will have been lost as a result. The RFL get another French club with no cost – and a prestigious one at that. They could, potentially, be one of the wealthiest clubs in SL if their backers are as good as they seem to be. Poor old Carlos Zalduendo, and his club cannot match that.
So they would be less risky than Toulouse, who would require TV money and would need to hit the ground running, otherwise they could end up struggling financially like the Celtic Crusaders last season.
If this situation is as good as it appears – and that’s a very big [sizeif [/size– then it looks likely there’ll be a club based in Paris after 2011 in Super League. If Stade Francais get the go-ahead, they will have 2 years to prepare. This seems to be a very different situation from the usual ramshackle expansion clubs that lunge from one financial disaster to another. This offer looks like an RFL wet dream. This could be the real deal. ![]()
good logic but why have a bye each week and have a club lose home gates? taking it to 16 by having the RFL fund one more team shouldnt be too hard, especially as toulose look like having a very good bid as well.
of course salford and wakeys SL spots are certainly up for grabs as well.
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| Quote: dally messenger "good logic but why have a bye each week and have a club lose home gates?'"
Byes probably wouldn't affect SL clubs the same way it has many Championship clubs. The RFL have already stated that they'd be prepared to go to 15 clubs, if there is no club worthy of demoting, in order to accomidate the promised Championship club. So I would assume they've thought it through.
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