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Quote: Serge A. Storms "Who else could do a better job - Karl Harrison - that well known handyman who really did make difference at Salford!!!!

It is not about the coach it is about lack of quality players - our back line is a joke - their are teams in the NRL with better backlines than ours'"


Theres Super League teams with better backlines than ours too.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



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Ellis
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Quote: Rock God X "Can anyone who has suggested dropping Tom Briscoe say why they would do so? What has he done wrong in the two games he's played?'"


I've not picked a team, and if I did I'd leave Briscoe in now. It's a sad reflection (generally, not talking about specific players now) though that you have to be poor to be dropped, rather than good to retain your place.

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some people seem keen on a bench with only 2 forwards on it and roby and another back. seems like suicide to me that, we are strongest in the pack lets try take em on down the middle

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Playing Eastmond at FB will be suicide.
We need other options if S Bricoe isnt gunna be the one.

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Quote: St. Chunter "some people seem keen on a bench with only 2 forwards on it and roby and another back. seems like suicide to me that, we are strongest in the pack lets try take em on down the middle'"


As an Aussie my head goes for the "Three forwards and a utility back" when I think of a bench.

Your bench is just an extension of your forward rotation really.


I dont think England will beat Australia anywhere on the park, they won't come close, but at the same time I don't think there is any hope in hell that some back is gonna come off the bench and blow us away.

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Quote: The Glorious League Freak "As an Aussie my head goes for the "Three forwards and a utility back" when I think of a bench.

Your bench is just an extension of your forward rotation really.


I dont think England will beat Australia anywhere on the park, they won't come close, but at the same time I don't think there is any hope in hell that some back is gonna come off the bench and blow us away.'"


i agree. our only chance is to try and smother the play as best we can. our attacking line was so pathetic last night it's likely to be individual pieces of skill which will lead to breaks rather than good passing plays. we need to try lure you into an arm wrestle (or whatever stupid phrase you wanna use) and try get you rattled. having shenton or eastmond/tomkins plus roby on the bench is pointless imo

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to me tomkins and crabtree both need to be in the 17, we need a forward who can offload and a halfback who can make a break for me the team would be

1- eastmond
2-hall
3-bridge
4-ellis
5-fox
6-mcguire
7-tomkins
8-graham
9-roby
10-peacock
11-burgess
12-wilkin
13-sinfield
14- crabtree
15-moore
16-morley
17- carvell

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1. briscoe
2. briscoe
3. smith
4. shenton
5. hall
6. tomkins
7. myler
8. peacock
9. roby
10. graham
11. ellis
12. burgess
13. sinfield

14. morley
15. carvell
16. westwood
17. mcguire

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Whoever we play we are going to get stuffed. We are all doomed I tell you icon_lol.gif

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1 - Shaun Briscoe
2 - Fox
3 - Bridge
4 - Smith
5 - Hall
6 - Tomkins
7 - Myler
8 - Morley
9 - Diskin
10 - Peacock
11 - Ellis
12 - Burgess
13 - Sinfield

14 - Graham
15 - Carvell
16 - Roby
17 - Westwood

I believe that we should try out the young half backs, we may aswell give it a go because McGuire wasn't great yesterday. Diskin should start with Roby on the bench because Moore also had a shocker. We needed 2 props on the bench as the Aussie props are much bigger (and better for that matter).

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The back are all too small. There is no size at all apart from Hall. The majority of Aussie and NZ backs are enormous freaks of nature.

We don't bring those types into the game in this country.

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McGuire
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Peacock
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Quote: The Glorious League Freak "As an Aussie my head goes for the "Three forwards and a utility back" when I think of a bench.

Your bench is just an extension of your forward rotation really.


I dont think England will beat Australia anywhere on the park, they won't come close, but at the same time I don't think there is any hope in hell that some back is gonna come off the bench and blow us away.'"


Biff and spoiling. That's GB's *only* chance. It's still only a small chance, but we definitely can't get into a skills competition. Load up the team with bruisers, psyche them up and get right at them. It'll be a much better spectacle too icon_lol.gif

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1. Briscoe-throwing Eastmond in at fb would be suicide for England and him)

2. Fox-not because Briscoe has done anything wrong but Fox has the edge on size and speed
3. Ellis- basically because i don't want Lee Smith in and because he would help in atempting to contain the centres
4. Eastmond
5. Hall

6.Sinfield
7. Myler

8.Morley
9.Roby-Thought Moore had a bit of a nightmare
10.Graham

11.Peacock
12.Wilkin
13.Burgess

14.Crabtree
15.Carvell
16.Westwood
17.Moore

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