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| Quote: Saint Simon "15
looks a lot better than westerman on this
Westerman has played two less games and has started a couple more from the bench as well, which means his stats are likely to be significantly less.
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| Quote: saints35 bulls0 "do we need workhorses in the England/GB team?'"
Yes, otherwise these people
Quote: saints35 bulls0 "sure, we need someone who can and will make a lot of tackles, but we need someone to actually create gaps and make breaks.'"
don't get a look in.
'" ]I really like Clough, he is a very good Super League player and will have a great club career ahead of him - but has he actually broken a tackle this year?'"]
I'd pick him above Wilkin at International level. He's also only in his second full season at SL level, I'd expect him to kick on and improve his all round game as he becomes more experienced. The fact that he's already better than a lot of SL second rowers, even without that experience stands him in good stead IMO.
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| Quote: Big Graeme "I think he'll make a damn fine second row.'" I hope that's not just because he's big. If he's got the skills for centre, he should stay out wide. If he hasn't, maybe he should work on them.
I think we're too eager to push big lads into the pack.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I hope that's not just because he's big. If he's got the skills for centre, he should stay out wide. If he hasn't, maybe he should work on them.
I think we're too eager to push big lads into the pack.'"
I think that is where he'll end up he's big, fast, great ball skills, hates taking a backward step and isn't scared to take the ball up.
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| Quote: Eurob0y "The only second rower in SL I would have over Paul Clough is Gareth Hock.'"
I'm guessing your only talking about English SRs with that statement?.
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| Quote: moxi1 "I'm guessing your only talking about English SRs with that statement?.'"
Perhaps somewhat surprisingly, not everyone wants to sign every Hull KR player.
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| Quote: Big Graeme "I think that is where he'll end up he's big, fast, great ball skills, hates taking a backward step and isn't scared to take the ball up.'"
Sounds like an international centre to me
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Perhaps somewhat surprisingly, not everyone wants to sign every Hull KR player.'"
So your saying you'd have him over Puletua(s?) who is a St Helens Player, I wont mention Ben Galea for us because it's a pointless argument with a pointless person.
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| Quote: moxi1 "So your saying you'd have him over Puletua(s?) who is a St Helens Player, I wont mention Ben Galea for us because it's a pointless argument with a pointless person.'"
Do HKR fans self importance know no bounds?
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| Quote: Chieftain McBeefton " Watkins looks the same as well - how do leeds fans rate his performances this year?
'" Watkins is a talent for sure but this season he has struggled somewhat. He's tried a little too hard and made some errors. He's also been hampered by having to play in the right centre which is not his natural opsition. He will be Senior's replacement for Leeds in due course (and hopefully England).
But so far this season its' all looked a bit of a struggle for him overall with a few touches of genius. They're handling him with kid gloves at Headingley and are probably doing the right thing.
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| Quote: Fingerposts Finest "firstly you don't see me post on the saints board because old chap i support widnes,
My appologies, what with you being Fingerpost's finest and Fingerpost being in St Helens and you talking of a young St Helens player who hasn't shown much at senior level I assumed you were a Saints fan who watched the academy on a regular basis.
So, I'll change my question, how does a Widnes fan come to the conclusion that Wheeler is the best stand off since Tony Myler?
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| Maybe a bit controversial but i am not convinced about Ainscough. as good and quick as he is, and leading try scorer in SL defensively he is not good enough yet. He was at fault for two Huddersfield tries and did not play against Saints because they threatened to bomb him on every 5th tackle.
Against Australia or NZ he would be targetted from the first minute. Whilst various English teams have suffered from different weaknesses over the years the one consistent one is the inabilty of our wingers to deal with kicks. That would be the key issue for me in picking a future english winger it is likely to mean that we have to train Ainscough to leap like a gazelle, find another winger or play someone out of their normal position.
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| Quote: moxi1 "So your saying you'd have him over Puletua(s?) who is a St Helens Player, I wont mention Ben Galea for us because it's a pointless argument with a pointless person.'"
I was thinking of Puletua as a prop. But yes, id have Clough over Galea, but I know youd have Galea over Clough
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| Quote: Gaslight "That just show they're completely different players, and Westerman still shows flashes of his old position of Stand Off'"
From the looks of that westy would certainly be regarded as the more creative player, he hasnt been himself this year in some of the games i've noticed when he has come on from the bench he has seemed much better, at a guess i would say this is because beeing a starting player for over 2 seasons at his age has exhausted him a bit. Looking forward to when he comes back he will be raring to go, especially if its against leeds.
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