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| Quote: wrencat1873 "What exactly is he moaning about ??
Surely, such a well run club will have budgeted for these costs, in the expectation that they would reach the Super 8's or, perhaps, having to travel to away games in England has come as a total shock.
Perhaps the cost of travel etc is one of the reasons why RL has previously only tried to expand into France and yet neither Toulouse ofr Catalan seem to have complained, with Catalan coming over for cup fixtures (and the Final in a couple of weeks time).
You would expect that Noble, of all people, knew where most Super 8's games took place, after all he is from a northern pit village
Well and does he also think or except if they get promoted that the super league will do the same has league 1 and the championship and let them play all games enblock if so tell them to bog of we do not need them do we
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| Quote: Someday "Well and does he also think or except if they get promoted that the super league will do the same has league 1 and the championship and let them play all games enblock if so tell them to bog of we do not need them do we'"
No but I believe Super League clubs will be expected to pay their own travel and accommodation costs.
I think most fans would disagree with you about not needing them.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Nobby as usual is right on the money. He is an ornament to our game.'"
We have quite a few ornaments in our house, her indoors dusts them as necessary but apart from that they are ignored.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "No but I believe Super League clubs will be expected to pay their own travel and accommodation costs.
I think most fans would disagree with you about not needing them.'"
Please tell us why SL "need" them.
Although there may be some "potential" sponsorship options, what benefits will Toronto being in SL actually bring ?
Their "harlem globetrotter status" is unlikely to yield increases in fan numbers as they can only spend "the same" as other SL clubs (not the twice or three times as much as the opposition they have played thus far), there will be additional costs to all clubs for going over there to play and if Nobles figures are correct this may be around 50k (not the 10k that some have been suggesting), notwithstanding the fact that the local climate will leave them playing their first "X" number of fixtures away from home, which will skew the fixtures for all other sides.
I may support a "small" club in the North of England but, your optimism is just crossed fingers, with no tangible benefit to their inclusion.
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| They have the potential to be the shot in the arm the game needs. I hope they come in and shake up the usual suspects when it comes to trophies.
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| Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Nobby as usual is right on the money. He is an ornament to our game.'"
We have a few ornaments at home, apart from the occasional dusting they are ignored.
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| Another great win for the TWP, 14-0 at The Shay.
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| Wolfpack win their first qualifier game but I see the moaners have got out ahead of the result.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "No but I believe Super League clubs will be expected to pay their own travel and accommodation costs.
I think most fans would disagree with you about not needing them.'"
Hang on, thought SL needed Bradford? is that as well as Toronto or them instead of Bradford? i lose track on who 'we need'
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| Quote: pandamonium "Wolfpack win their first qualifier game but I see the moaners have got out ahead of the result.'" ]
What you on about it’s Noble who’s moaning you can’t expect to play the qualifiers how you want to play them
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| Brian, you 'whinging old grandad' nobody asked you lot to join our league. But I agree, you should be playing in a Canadian League. The RFL did obviously not think travelling might be a problem for Toronto. They knew it would be for the (championship/league 1) away teams, but they don't care about them
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| Quote: RLRealist "Another great win for the TWP, 14-0 at The Shay.'"
So TWP have beaten Halifax, the lowest ranked side in The Qualifiers, get the Champagne out, your as good as promoted
You've still got to beat London, Toulouse and at least one SL club and possibly win the MPG, it's as good as in the bag.
I know that you're new to this but, have a look at Leigh and Bradford's recent history in getting through this comp, there is certainly no guarantee of success.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "They have the potential to be the shot in the arm the game needs. I hope they come in and shake up the usual suspects when it comes to trophies.'"
I'd be shocked if they weren't promoted but they'll be absolutely nowhere near winning any trophies once they get into Super League.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "They have the potential to be the shot in the arm the game needs. I hope they come in and shake up the usual suspects when it comes to trophies.'"
Is that the same 'potential' I keep getting told that London and Sheffield have had for the last 38 and 34 years respectively?
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Its also strange that some of the expansion experts on here quote 10,000 quid/ game as the cost of playing Toronto but, Mr Noble needs over 48,000 per game, maybe they only travel first class and stay in the best hotels, instead of a glorified bunk house.'"
Not doing your sums, wrencat. If you'd read the article, you'd have noted that Noble claims it will cost "not far short of 300,000 pounds" for Wolfpack to participate in the Qualifiers, not to ferry and accommodate the Wolfpack alone.
You'd have further noted that the two Super League teams travelling to Toronto have demanded business class flights and four star hotels. This is still on the Wolfpack's tab, as they agreed to pay the travel costs to get to Super League. Add up those costs for the squad and the coaches and support staff - the SL clubs are the ones running up the tab.
By the way, visiting teams didn't stay in a glorified bunk house. They stayed in clean and new student accommodation, not a Dickensian workhouse. But never let the facts stand in the way of a good story, eh?
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