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| Quote Kevs Head="Kevs Head"Not sure about your two broad groups.
I'm very pro expansion but I believe in P and R and that the game in new areas has to grow organically (with a lot of support from the RFL). I voted Remain.
Don't know if that helps.'"
I'm of a similar ilk. I voted remain but want the RFL to pump money into development officers and developing amateur clubs not just amateur teams all over the uk
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| Given that the value of GBP has dropped it's going to be rather unlikely that we will see a positive outcome for the sport (or any of society), but in terms of expansion will this make earning in Euros or Aussie dollars better? Probably, increasing the pattern of Super League being a feeder for the southern leagues.
Gate attendances will no doubt drop as people find other inflationary pressures taking precedence over entertainment.
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| Quote Kevs Head="Kevs Head"Not sure about your two broad groups.
I'm very pro expansion but I believe in P and R and that the game in new areas has to grow organically (with a lot of support from the RFL). I voted Remain.
Don't know if that helps.'"
Yes, I found phrasing the question tricky (lesson there for future referenda!). People don't fit into neat categories. If there was a specific issue like, say, a proposal to fast-track Toronto or similar into SL, it'd be much easier to ask the question. I did think afterwards of making the expansion question "I think the RFL should prioritise new areas over the heartlands for support", but I can't find a way to edit the poll questions!
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| Quote Roy Haggerty="Roy Haggerty"Yes, I found phrasing the question tricky (lesson there for future referenda!). People don't fit into neat categories. If there was a specific issue like, say, a proposal to fast-track Toronto or similar into SL, it'd be much easier to ask the question. I did think afterwards of making the expansion question "I think the RFL should prioritise new areas over the heartlands for support", but I can't find a way to edit the poll questions!'"
I voted against the EU in the first vote and the 2nd vote 2 yrs later at last I got my wish to vote leave but back to your vote I think if it was done correct P and R would be the best and still let in the overseas teams but let them start in the bottom tier like they are doing now
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| Quote cravenpark1="cravenpark1"I voted against the EU in the first vote and the 2nd vote 2 yrs later at last I got my wish to vote leave but back to your vote I think if it was done correct P and R would be the best and still let in the overseas teams but let them start in the bottom tier like they are doing now'"
Although I agree in principle with P/R, I just dont think it works with a sport where it is looking to expand.
The first thing that any organisation wants is stability and even IF a club could start at the bottom (Like Toronto or Toulouse, in their second coming), the risk of relegation and the hit that they would take financially, seems to make the gamble too big.
Having said that, if the new clubs coming in are heavily bank rolled, perhaps they can throw enough money at their clubs to "guarantee" promotion to and survival in the top flight.
The one certainty is thet RL simply has to grow, just to lift it's profile or, we will be left with a fringe sport along the M62 corridor.
THe franchise model still seems the best wat forward but, with some more stringent management from the RFL
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Although I agree in principle with P/R, I just dont think it works with a sport where it is looking to expand.
The first thing that any organisation wants is stability and even IF a club could start at the bottom (Like Toronto or Toulouse, in their second coming), the risk of relegation and the hit that they would take financially, seems to make the gamble too big.
Having said that, if the new clubs coming in are heavily bank rolled, perhaps they can throw enough money at their clubs to "guarantee" promotion to and survival in the top flight.
The one certainty is thet RL simply has to grow, just to lift it's profile or,[u we will be left with a fringe sport along the M62[/u corridor.
THe franchise model still seems the best wat forward but, with some more stringent management from the RFL'"
We ARE a fringe sport along the m62 corridor.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"We ARE a fringe sport along the m62 corridor.'"
And is that where the sports ambitions should start and finish ?
Even football, probably the globes "biggest" game is trying to expand but, many RL fans would rather our game shrink back into the heartlands and then complain that we dont have any money and never get any media exposure etc, etc.
The game is being played up and down the UK, we just lack the vision to capitalise on this
Without decent exposure, how do we attract more players, sponsors etc into the game or, should we be happy as a "pub" sport.
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| Quote goobervision="goobervision"Given that the value of GBP has dropped it's going to be rather unlikely that we will see a positive outcome for the sport (or any of society), but in terms of expansion will this make earning in Euros or Aussie dollars better? Probably, increasing the pattern of Super League being a feeder for the southern leagues.
Gate attendances will no doubt drop as people find other inflationary pressures taking precedence over entertainment.'"
This.
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| As a non-Brit I could not vote, but I would have voted remain. I am for expansion, especially in France, Canada and the USA. If we can get a number of professional clubs into Super League from France (Toulouse, Avignon, Paris), Canada (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver) and the USA, then our game will explode internationally. I foresee the much promised USA professional league (announced by David Niu before it ever had a chance), as the outcome of a successful televised expansion of the game into France and Canada.
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| I would rather see SL thrive in it's current first, it's hardly going from strength to strength at the minute is it? on which would perhaps be a basis for major expansion if it was. Too many loons like Jean who want to run before you can walk...it's the walking part that RL has never quite been able to manage unfortunately when it comes to growing the sport.
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| Quote Kevs Head="Kevs Head"Not sure about your two broad groups.
I'm very pro expansion but I believe in P and R and that the game in new areas has to grow organically (with a lot of support from the RFL). I voted Remain.
Don't know if that helps.'"
Pretty much the same as me. I voted remain, want the RFL to focus on improving the current competition (bring more money in primarily), whilst organically growing the sport away from the M62.
As much as some seem to hate it*, I think the current format of the competition is the best of both worlds - providing P&R whilst not having the ridiculous situation of yoyo clubs we had with 'true' P&R before licensing. We just do an abysmal job of selling the sport as it currently is.
*[size=85or literally anything the sport tries to do with the format[/size
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| I heard an advert on Talksport this morning advertising tickets for the upcoming four nations, first such advert i have heard or seen besides the usual generic emails sent out to people who have purchased tickets before. Bit late in the day if you ask me, shouldn't the RFL have been hitting this promotional campaign as soon as the venues were decided? it just looks like we are desperate to flog tickets we can't get rid of rather than a real event you need to get on board with before tickets go quickly. This for me is just one big area we are a million miles behind other sports in and have to get right to grow.
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