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| Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "But one thing that has really been grating on me is the fact that our ground The Shay was used for SL games this year, two of which were live on Skysports!!!!
i ask you this, what would Huddersfield have done if we had simply said "no", i presume that this was an agreement made between the council, the RFL and the two clubs.
Where would Huddersfield have played?
would they have used Wakefields ground???!!!!! i thnink not.
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Odsal, cos its nearer. HTH.
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| Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "put yourself in Fax's position, and think how you might feel.
we're not wanting to feel sorry for ourselves, we just want answers as to why?!
quite clearly you have all these 'answers'
but wait a minute you know as much as the RFL have said! diddly squat!
i bet its lovely watching it from the other side of the fence.'"
Did you see Nigel Wood's interview on Boots N All yesterday?
The clubs themselves will be given feedback on the licence applications over the next couple of days. If they choose to, they can make that feedback public. The RFL are not in a position to make details of any of the applications public however, as the bids were submitted in confidence due to them containing sensitive commercial information.
Based on various tweets from journalists and others within the game, Halifax's bid was considered by the independent reviewers engaged by the RFL to be full of holes. If you've got a beef, take it up with the people the club used to put that bid together. Had they done a better job you might just have finished 13th out of 14 and been in SL from next year.
When your Chairman stops throwing his toys out of the pram, maybe he'll be able to give you the answers you want. I'd be very surprised if he does however, as doing so would probably expose the club's own incompetence.
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| Forget who's got the better ground! Who has the better business plan?
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| It's a tidy little ground but hardly a place Sl is going to fall over itself to get in
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| To be fair, The Shay should be a good ground.
It's taken long enough to finish.
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| Quote: SIMMSFAXTEDDY "put yourself in Fax's position, and think how you might feel.
we're not wanting to feel sorry for ourselves, we just want answers as to why?!
quite clearly you have all these 'answers'
but wait a minute you know as much as the RFL have said! diddly squat!
i bet its lovely watching it from the other side of the fence.'"
Who is to say YOU will get any answers? its for the RFL to discuss with each CLUB in turn, in private meetings to be held soon, as has been publicly stated several times in the past few days.
its then up to YOUR club if they choose to divulge the feedback given by the RFL.
you may or may not get answers, but the powers that be at your club will.
so stop bleating.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Did you see Nigel Wood's interview on Boots N All yesterday?
The clubs themselves will be given feedback on the licence applications over the next couple of days. If they choose to, they can make that feedback public. The RFL are not in a position to make details of any of the applications public however, as the bids were submitted in confidence due to them containing sensitive commercial information.
Based on various tweets from journalists and others within the game, Halifax's bid was considered by the independent reviewers engaged by the RFL to be full of holes. If you've got a beef, take it up with the people the club used to put that bid together. Had they done a better job you might just have finished 13th out of 14 and been in SL from next year.
When your Chairman stops throwing his toys out of the pram, maybe he'll be able to give you the answers you want. I'd be very surprised if he does however, as doing so would probably expose the club's own incompetence.'"
What he said. i missed that before i posted the last one.
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| As someone said - Widnes have been through this before, with a stronger case. Also, when SL was created they wanted Widnes and Warrington to merge and then just Warrington in. They announced live on TV that both would be allowed into SL and then Wdnes were excluded. Now that was unfair as Widnes did not get relegated under the old system that prevailed immediately before SL.
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| Open invitation to the Board of Halifax RLFC - if they actually feel hard done to (as opposed to potential posturing for their fans) then why not publish the business plan and we can offer a critique of it?
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| Dont talk daft, what would they then have to complain about
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| Quote: JB Down Under "It's a tidy little ground but hardly a place Sl is going to fall over itself to get in
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As a Wakey fan I'm biased. However it's a tidy ground and way better than BV no argument. If Fax were in now instead of us I'd live with it although that's easy to say now. But the truth it would appear is that Fax simply didn't have a good enough bid end of.
One things for sure, Wakefield must have done well because even our most ardent critic would not consider us a sacred cow - if Fax were even close I reckon they would have got the nod but that's just an opinion.
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| The shay is a good ground however there are issues with one of the stands which has to be closed for TV games and I also believe there is a slight issue with the broadcast gantry in the new main stand.
Also the South stand facilities although new are lacking it was all a bit of squeeze down there in the Bulls Cup game.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Did you see Nigel Wood's interview on Boots N All yesterday?
The clubs themselves will be given feedback on the licence applications over the next couple of days. If they choose to, they can make that feedback public. The RFL are not in a position to make details of any of the applications public however, as the bids were submitted in confidence due to them containing sensitive commercial information.
Based on various tweets from journalists and others within the game, Halifax's bid was considered by the independent reviewers engaged by the RFL to be full of holes. If you've got a beef, take it up with the people the club used to put that bid together. Had they done a better job you might just have finished 13th out of 14 and been in SL from next year.
When your Chairman stops throwing his toys out of the pram, maybe he'll be able to give you the answers you want. I'd be very surprised if he does however, as doing so would probably expose the club's own incompetence.'"
But why let facts spoil days of dummy-spitting, teddy-throwing, incoherent rage.
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| Quote: Kosh "But why let facts spoil days of dummy-spitting, teddy-throwing, incoherent rage.'"
Nobody ing has any facts, thats the problem.
And when the sky team tried to get a few out of Nigel Wood yesterday he stumbled and tripped like a fourth rate politician, toeing a party line whilst failing to answer any questions. With all the doublespeak, the hypocrisy, it is no wonder people pour scorn on them.
It was plain for anyone to see that Crusaders were a sham who were being promoted before they were even half cooked and now after a series of stumbles and failures they have had to do the RFLs job for them and remove themselves from super league. Now a club who has gone through administration, the one single thing used to justify keeping widnes out last time at the expense of the "really strong" clubs who went up instead, and what does Wood say last night? That the RFL can't hold administration in a previous regime against a club solely to keep them out of super league. They failed to get a stadium, again. It's not a stadium competition apparently. Or a finances competition. Or an on field competition. What sort of competition is it then?
This isn't "rage". Thats just pathetic nonsense designed to discredit decent people asking questions that need answering. The RFL are not handling this process well, and that is absolutely vital given that the licensing system gives them more control than ever and judging by Nigel Wood's performance on Boots N All last night, they've not learned anything since the last time.
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| Quote: vikingsmurf "Who is to say YOU will get any answers? its for the RFL to discuss with each CLUB in turn, in private meetings to be held soon, as has been publicly stated several times in the past few days.
its then up to YOUR club if they choose to divulge the feedback given by the RFL.
you may or may not get answers, but the powers that be at your club will.
so stop bleating.'"
What I don't see is why the RL didn't have the discussion with Fax prior to making the announcement. From what the chairman says, they did tick all the boxes and from their point of view, it looks like they've been fitted up.
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