FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Salary cap - Should we follow the Aviva Premiership model?
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
j.c
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6858
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2019Nov 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: cjhatesunion "Because clubs in the past have been known to go bust whilst overspending.'"


But surely there is no need for clubs to over spend now,a big cheque off sky every year and two and a half years to prove to the rfl that you are worthy of a place in sl will stop this happening now?.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1869No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2018Apr 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I think that it would be a good idea to have Marquee players, but a £4.5 million cap? I can't see it making the game any better. Allow 2 Marquee Players in each team, and keep the cap at 1.65 million.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2786No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201015 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2013May 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: j.c "But surely there is no need for clubs to over spend now,a big cheque off sky every year and two and a half years to prove to the rfl that you are worthy of a place in sl will stop this happening now?.'"


I agree mate but this still happens and will continue to do so.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner33944No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: cjhatesunion "I agree mate but this still happens and will continue to do so.'"


Yes it will , because sport is competitive , maybe somebody should tell the RFL

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner29214No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



No salary cap rises can happen in Super League at the moment. Not all the clubs can afford it. If Wigan were allowed an unlimited pot for a marque player they would apply for an exemption that all their existing players were tents in a former life and start spending £15bn a season on players. For the sake of the Wigan fans, it cannot be allowed to happen a second time as there won't be another businessman looking to build his football team a big stadium and needing a tin pot second sport to get it through planning permission.

If anything the cap needs to come down until all clubs are making a profit. Which Super League clubs make a profit? I'll bet Leeds do, but who else is there beyond that?

RankPostsTeam
International Star40No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2011Jun 2011LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I like the idea of one of the posters on the link that all the clubs that choose this marquee option have to pay an amount then to all the clubs not spending the cap. It would see more money going into the super league and a lot fairer than just raising the cap

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman5893
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Saddened! "
If anything the cap needs to come down until all clubs are making a profit. Which Super League clubs make a profit? I'll bet Leeds do, but who else is there beyond that?'"


In 2009 up to November 2009 Warrington had a turnover of £5.74m to make a marginal profit, of £27,800, compared with a loss of £348,000 a year earlier.

For 2010 I can't find the figure, but the Chief Executive said it was a second year of profit.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22320No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Sep 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



We had a 50% of income rule with a max of 1.6m, we got rid of the 50% rule sp clubs who were bank rolled could compete.

I'd just have a 50% rule.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman17134No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2020Aug 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: stevenwood "I like the idea of one of the posters on the link that all the clubs that choose this marquee option have to pay an amount then to all the clubs not spending the cap. It would see more money going into the super league and a lot fairer than just raising the cap'"


If it was to be done, and I am against it as it defeats the equality objective of the cap, then that's the way to do it. Clubs that take a marquee player pay a 100% "luxury tax" to the RFL or SL.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9680
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



salary what?

RankPostsTeam
International Star7580
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: morleys_deckchair "salary what?'"


icon_lol.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22777
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Feb 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



In a franchised SL, any club which cannot be trusted not to run themselves into the ground shouldnt get a place.

The SC in its current form is disadvantaging the game. We used to bring in the best players from around the world now our best players are playing either in the Aviva premiership or the NRL and our clubs squads are filled with second rate imports.

The SC hasnt risen for ten years, when you factor in inflation that is a huge decrease and we still dont have this mythical even competition, and it doesnt even stop clubs over-spending.

The SC is far too blunt of an instrument to do what we want to do, people seem so terrified of one club winning (they forget that Leeds won three gfs in a row, 4 in 6 years and appeared in 5 gfs in 6 years under the SC) things that as soon as any change in the SC is proposed they revert to type and hide behind stories of clubs going bust (which they have done under a SC) or one club winning things year on year (which has happened under the SC) and forget all the negatives the SC brings to the game.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach763
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Aug 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



No clubs should even be allowed to vote for a salary cap increase until they show atleast a £100k profit at the end a the year.
Clubs and fans alike think their club needs to spend upto the cap to be competitive, but the only clubs that can justify spending the cap are those that have won trophies.
What happens when a club has already spent the cap then start winning trophies and players start demanding a wage increase?
Those clubs want a increase in the cap not because they can afford it but because they have backed themselves into a corner.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member6360No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2014Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Fully "Any salary cap exemptions would only benefit the rich clubs with sugar daddies. The smaller clubs would not be able to spend more, they still wouldn't be able to keep their best players on higher wages and longer contracts.

It wouldn't make one jot of difference except allowing the likes of Leeds, Wire and Wigan the ability to spend double, have bigger squads. It would make SL boring, repetitive and from a personal point of view I'd lose all interest.'"


If you allowed home grown players to remain off the cap, then the smaller clubs would be able to compete, and, more importantly, they would be encouraged to develop their own talent.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach22777
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jun 2020Feb 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Boris "If you allowed home grown players to remain off the cap, then the smaller clubs would be able to compete, and, more importantly, they would be encouraged to develop their own talent.'"

in fact doing so and decreasing the salary cap would actively benefit a smaller club and actively disadvantage any club looking to buy success.

21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
21 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


7.57861328125:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
210
52m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
52m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
53m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
55m
Film game
Boss Hog
5759
57m
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
Recent
Salford
rubber ducki
55
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2610
Recent
Fixtures
BigTime
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
1m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2610
1m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
2m
Salford
rubber ducki
55
2m
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
3m
Castleford sack Lingard
Another Cas
16
3m
Shopping list for 2025
Hullrealist
5587
3m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
192
3m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
BigTime
2
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
8
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,649 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28m
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
210
52m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63268
52m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
53m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
55m
Film game
Boss Hog
5759
57m
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
Recent
Salford
rubber ducki
55
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2610
Recent
Fixtures
BigTime
2
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
1m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
511
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
2610
1m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
2m
Salford
rubber ducki
55
2m
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
3m
Castleford sack Lingard
Another Cas
16
3m
Shopping list for 2025
Hullrealist
5587
3m
Ground Improvements
Khlav Kalash
192
3m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Fixtures
BigTime
2
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
TODAY
2025 Squad
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Mark_P1973
8
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
9
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
chapylad
6
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!