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| Quote Lost in Leeds="Lost in Leeds"Firstly there is a momentum rule(I also assumed Stevo had made it up til I read the rulebook)
Secondly, dont you think the referee looking at the direction of the hands is a rubbish way of determining it. The best placed guy to check forward passes is the linesman-why dont they give him the job of calling it.
The number of tries being scored from forward passes and the acceptable angle appears to be increasing year on year. Its getting like American football.
p.s. Saints are the worst culprit'"
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| Quote Lost in Leeds="Lost in Leeds"This has got to be the worst rule in Rugby League. Its impossible to referee and causes the most confusion and resentment amongst supporters. Like all subjective rules it belongs to Union.
Why cant we have a simple rule which states a forward pass is any pass that goes forward from the the position it was thrown.'"
....we want to see players running forward at full speed be able to pass to a supporting team mate your "rule" would prevent this ever happening. I prefer the rules as they have always been (and currently are). |
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How would this prevent this ever happening? Not every pass made on the run is forward'"
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| Quote Lost in Leeds="Lost in Leeds":2tqgpaogHow would this prevent this ever happening? Not every pass made on the run is forward'"
yes it is...that's physics. |
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| Quote Lost in Leeds="Lost in Leeds"This has got to be the worst rule in Rugby League. Its impossible to referee and causes the most confusion and resentment amongst supporters. Like all subjective rules it belongs to Union.
Why cant we have a simple rule which states a forward pass is any pass that goes forward from the the position it was thrown.'"
Because we live in a universe governed by the laws of physics and the RFL doesn't have the power to repeal them.
Plus it would be stupid to have a player pass to another player behind him, but have it ruled a forward pass. |
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| Quote Lost in Leeds="Lost in Leeds":12pw1vgyHow would this prevent this ever happening? Not every pass made on the run is forward'"
If you've not noticed a ball passed backwards can float forward if a player is running fast. The ref only has to look at the players hands when the pass is made to decide whether it went backwards or not. Its probably easier to ref than deciding whether a ball has gone forward. |
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The problem may be partly caused by mis-use of the word 'momentum'. The momentum of the running player (mass multiplied by velocity) has nothing to do with it. To be excessively pedantic, whether a pass is forward or not should be judged in a Lagrangian frame of reference. A spectator on the touchline sees things in an Eulerian frame of reference (Google either term for a full explanation). Think of two boats floating down a river one of them slightly in front of the other. If you throw a ball from the first boat to the second boat then from the point of view of people in the boats the ball always goes backwards. From the point of view of an observer on the river bank the ball may go either forwards or backwards depending on the speed at which the river is flowing. The best independent judge is someone in a third boat travelling at the same velocity as the first two. On the rugby field the best judge is the referee who ought to be running at the same velocity as the two players involved.
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| Quote tb="tb"Because we live in a universe governed by the laws of physics and the RFL doesn't have the power to repeal them.'"
That's ridiculous. I knew the RFL shouldn't have let Rod Findlay go to Gateshead. |
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| Quote tb="tb"Because we live in a universe governed by the laws of physics and the RFL doesn't have the power to repeal them.
Plus it would be stupid to have a player pass to another player behind him, but have it ruled a forward pass.'"
£5 says that if they could, they would, in order to be 'innovative' |
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| Quote JBS="JBS"The problem may be partly caused by mis-use of the word 'momentum'. The momentum of the running player (mass multiplied by velocity) has nothing to do with it. To be excessively pedantic, whether a pass is forward or not should be judged in a Lagrangian frame of reference. A spectator on the touchline sees things in an Eulerian frame of reference (Google either term for a full explanation). Think of two boats floating down a river one of them slightly in front of the other. If you throw a ball from the first boat to the second boat then from the point of view of people in the boats the ball always goes backwards. From the point of view of an observer on the river bank the ball may go either forwards or backwards depending on the speed at which the river is flowing. The best independent judge is someone in a third boat travelling at the same velocity as the first two. On the rugby field the best judge is the referee who ought to be running at the same velocity as the two players involved.'"
Spot on, which is why so many fans at various games yell 'forward' for passes that are perfectly fine. |
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"Spot on, which is why so many fans at various games yell 'forward' for passes that are perfectly fine.'"
Well, that and the fact that it's traditional |
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| Quote tb="tb"Well, that and the fact that it's traditional'"
And fun. |
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