You get the prize for the MOST number of bullsh*t posts

Your prize is a Leigh SL shirt from 2005

You know the final scene from Indiana Jones , Raiders of the lost Ark , there is a wharehouse like that in leigh , full of merchandise from 2005

What size are you , I'm guessing XXXXL , we have plenty of those

All clubs are currently complying to the overseas rules in Super League. Continuing to do so should see more homegrown talent given a chance which is a great thing, but alongside these rules, clubs need to remain competitive and look to challenge for honours rather than ensuring they tick certain boxes, but go backwards on the pitch.

The idea behind removing relegation was to give clubs some breathing space and take the pressure off, but does awarding a very valuable licence 'point' to averaging a top 8 finish simply put that pressure back on, or is it key to the game continuing to be a competitive sport and an attractive spectacle rather than just a list of criteria?

Developing players is not about fast-tracking a load of lads from the academy into first team action and seeing them get the confidence smashed out of them by seasoned pro's. It's as much about knowing when [inot[/i to play them. Rushing young players through does nothing for the game. It lowers the quality which in turn lowers the support thus lowering the number of kids wanting to get into it.

Only time will tell if the time, money and effort Hull KR have invested in their youth setup will bear fruit, but one thing is for certain; that investment wouldn't be possible without a bit of success on the pitch and despite what some people think, there aren't enough English players as good as Lovegrove, Fisher and Green to go round yet. Hopefully there will be soon.

yes, there is.

No, there isn't. If they were English they'd have made the train on squad this year. All three have a had a good season.

Not a dig at Hull FC at all, but when you have to pay a fee (plus no doubt a sizeable wage) for a player like Westerman, it demonstrates that the good English SL-standard players are at a premium.

Until the rules start to kick in and show some definite results, there is still a lot better value for money in overseas players. I'm not denying Hull KR have some catching up to do, but alongside getting the youth set-up up and running, they are signing players who'll establish a minimum quality that a homegrown player has to be, alongside giving the fans value for money by putting out a competitive team.

You wont win anything without Aussies in your side.

its not such a brash move,finacially as you may think. The advantage of paying a fee for a player is that there's no competetion for his signature, unless when their contract expires. Because of this, youprobably get the player at a better rate than you would at the end of their current deal.

I never said it was brash, just that it demonstrates that if you want good English talent, you might now have to stump up a transfer fee. In any case if what you're saying is correct, surely we'd see it happening a lot more often.

Perhaps Hull paid a fee because they know just how hot the competition would be for his signature when his contract is up? Again demonstrating how little there is available.

All that said, I agree with Smokey that clubs taking responsibility for developing players will cure this, but in the mean time they still need to get the best value for money they can to keep the game at a decent standard.

bull, none, of Lovegrove, Green or Fisher would get near the England squad.

Ben Fisher is barely playing the same game as Roby, never mind challenging him for an England place.

Blake Green is no where near the quality of Tomkins, Mcguire, Pryce, Eastmond, Myler, or Brown.

and are you really saying Lovegrove would be challenging Peacock, Graham, Morley, Lynch, Carvell, Westwood, Crabtree?

none would be anywhere near.

Bloody hell Green played the most games he has every played in a season last year, 18, he was then immediately replaced by a younger, less experienced player yet he is England quality

Well over three missed tackles a game, that is pretty dreadful for a prop.

No they're not as good as any of the players you mention, but they'd have had a good shout of the train-on squad with their performances this year. Very much doubt they'd have made the final cut, but would be held in much higher regard if they were English.



So you think they [iare[/i better than the average English player? If not it wouldn't be an advantage.