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Quote: SmokeyTA "So does caffeine, Not sure we should be banning players because of it.

So does pirating movies, or using kodi boxes. Not sure we should be banning players for that.

We are the sport of the Betfred Super League, Ladbrokes Challenge Cup and Kingston Press Championship we might want to tone down the righteous indignation somewhat.'"

Totally clueless and inept post with no understanding of the issue or what I said. 0/10.
Caffeine at certain levels is a flag in drugs testing, if you don't know why go bother yourself to do some research. However it's great that you are comparing it with cocaain, as it highlights your inability to make any sense.
And even better you make a comparison regarding something clubs/RFL/UKAD have no control over and is out of their remit to control. But according to you a player having a KODI box is the same/comparable to taking cocaine/amphet or having high levels of caffiene even, just lol! Well done on making an ass of yourself!

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Quote: nottinghamtiger "My understanding is that it is performance enhancing if taken and still in the system at the point of competition, so is a banned in-competition substance.
It's not considered performance enhancing in out-of-competition testing.'"


In the past I have taken Cocaine to my shame. While it does appear to give you extra energy I couldn't imagine trying to play rugby at professional level while on it. When you take it just on a recreational level it increases your heart rate to uncomfortable levels. I can imagine taking it while playing Rugby League at the highest level would cause massive exertion on your heart. If you were to take it the night before a game it would probably be a hindrance, imagine the worst hangover you've had multiplied by ten.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "That 'wrong crowd' is a huge crowd. I don't take recreational drugs, but I have a long time ago, and so have the majority of people I know, in fact I've never met anyone under the age of 35 who hasn't. To be frank, recreational drug use is rife particularly among young people, and students.
As for anti-doping as a whole, I've long been of the opinion that it's a small minority of 'cheats', but it is common place and is actually encouraged in elite level sport. I think that we just get the odd high profile example hung out to dry to try and project the illusion that the anti-doping organisations are 'winning', when the truth is they're not even trying.'"


I take it, you have never visited the UKAD site?

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I've updated the thread title and added the Adam Walker story to the original post as he's now been found to have tested positive for cocaine as well

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I'm telling you now this stuff is rife in the game,,
Iv seen guys at NCL clubs taking it when they even have there kids with them.
It's society these days that just seem to think it's the norm to do a bit of coke..
It can put serious strain on the heart and I think the rise in young men having heart problems when playing could be due to this

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Totally clueless and inept post with no understanding of the issue or what I said. 0/10.
Caffeine at certain levels is a flag in drugs testing, if you don't know why go bother yourself to do some research. However it's great that you are comparing it with cocaain, as it highlights your inability to make any sense.
And even better you make a comparison regarding something clubs/RFL/UKAD have no control over and is out of their remit to control. But according to you a player having a KODI box is the same/comparable to taking cocaine/amphet or having high levels of caffiene even, just lol! Well done on making an ass of yourself!'"
Faux-indignation is not a substitute for cogency. You have fooled no-one.

Won't somebody please think of the children?

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Quote: Fev 1979 "I'm telling you now this stuff is rife in the game,,
Iv seen guys at NCL clubs taking it when they even have there kids with them.
It's society these days that just seem to think it's the norm to do a bit of coke..
It can put serious strain on the heart and I think the rise in young men having heart problems when playing could be due to this'"



When they announce the dream team at the end of the season , there will be users in that 13. It needs to stop.

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Quote: Towns88 "When they announce the dream team at the end of the season , there will be users in that 13. It needs to stop.'"

Well said but how do you stop it icon_confused.gif:

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It's time we eradicated this filth out of country and we can start by having blood tests for 3rd party liability insurance for drivers, machinery users and anyone in a "danger to other people" type of job, then politicians, lords, judges and stock brokers. If your not clean you shouldn't be in any of those jobs. If you get caught selling the stuff you go up 3 tax bands for life and bailiffs check the contents of your home every month to see income vs outgoings... after that we might have a chance.

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Its legal to smoke and drink in this country and smoking and drinking to excess are not what you want professional sportsmen on your team doing - but it happens. Recreational cocaine use outside the match day window is something else you don't want your players doing but the moral police can sort that out. As much as taking coke is a mugs game, let the clubs and society in general deal with that. All the RL needs to do is get rid of those stupid or reckless enough to have it in their system on match days.

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It's been getting to these epidemic levels for years..
I have seen the situation with my own eyes,,and Iv been in situations where I have thought this has got out of control..
Ten years ago it was all passed under the table now you will see a guy just pass it over the table...
All I know is if I had the talent gifted to me to play pro rugby I wouldn't be risking getting banned or damaging my health with that rubbish..
Also look at the amount of blokes queuing up to use the toilets at magic weekend,,Wembley etc,,loads of space at urinals your not telling me all them fellas need a crap...

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Faux-indignation is not a substitute for cogency. You have fooled no-one.

Won't somebody please think of the children?'"

lol, typical response from someone out of their depth. You imply that coke use is okay, that one should not be offended by professional sports people taking it, even less so iven that the sport/players are very much a part of the local community. Myself, I abhor banned/illegal drug use, tobacco use is barely tolerable.
But well done on exposing yourself as someone with a ridiculous and frankly dangerous attitude to drug taking!

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "lol, typical response from someone out of their depth. You imply that coke use is okay, that one should not be offended by professional sports people taking it, even less so iven that the sport/players are very much a part of the local community. Myself, I abhor banned/illegal drug use, tobacco use is barely tolerable.
But well done on exposing yourself as someone with a ridiculous and frankly dangerous attitude to drug taking!'"

You can choose to abhor whatever you want to abhor. Im not going to stop you.

We get it, you are a good person because you think someone who takes Cocaine, the processed version of a naturally occurring plant substance used as a stimulant for thousands of years by indigenous peoples is a terrible person and you are offended by my dangerous comparison to Caffeine a processed version of a naturally occurring plant substance used as a stimulant for thousands of years by indigenous peoples.

You are a good person because you are offended by the actions of people you have no relationship with, you are a fine upstanding gentleman because you are prepared to hold people to a higher moral standard simply because they are good at sport, you are a good moral person because you are fully prepared to castigate, to denigrate, to malign, those who dont abhor the same arbitrary substances you do. I am a bad and dangerous person because i dont think its my place to judge.

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I don't know anybody who has died from drinking coffee , I do know someone who died as a direct consequence of taking cocaine

I haven't seen people become aggressive to the point of violence from drinking coffee ' I have seen people become aggressive to the point of violence from taking cocaine

Other opinions might well differ

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its not really hard to find examples www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 37926.html

as for violence about 10k people die per year from alcohol related diseases in the uk, there are about 600k alcohol dependent persons in the uk, there are about three quarters of a million alcohol related criminal offences per year, 64% of all stranger violence are alcohol related, 70% of all violent crime at weekends is alcohol related.

Hypocrisy over what substances people choose to abuse does nothing to help anyone.
its not really hard to find examples www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 37926.html

as for violence about 10k people die per year from alcohol related diseases in the uk, there are about 600k alcohol dependent persons in the uk, there are about three quarters of a million alcohol related criminal offences per year, 64% of all stranger violence are alcohol related, 70% of all violent crime at weekends is alcohol related.

Hypocrisy over what substances people choose to abuse does nothing to help anyone.


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