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Here's a change for the final test, some aggression! Totally absent from the series so far, say for the exception of SOL's hit on Blair and a couple of big hits from Whare. Seriously needs some biff to kickstart the game on Saturday.

Can I suggest England 'walk up' to the Haka, would at least generate some atmosphere icon_confused.gif

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Quote: GiantDee "I think it is unlikely anyone not in the 17 for the last 3 weeks would make a difference - they must be rusty not having played since September. Furthermore, Gale, Cudjoe or McGillvary would not make a difference behind a beaten pack. It was in the forwards that England lost, yet both Whitehead and Cooper got limited game time.

As for the halves, difficult to do much given the frequency that James Graham takes the ball to the line and then passes. If Williams was allowed to do that England get several breaks, Ferres, Farrell and Whitehead would all thrive off that. The coaches need to set the tactics rather than indulge favourite players.'"


Agree. After some initial success, other NRL sides wised up to Canterbury's now rather tired tactic of using Graham as a pivot. Cooper looked to do pretty well to me in his limited time, he should get more game time at the DW.

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Graham's passing became a problem at Canterbury when it went from being used sparingly to effectively using him as a halfback on every play. It became increasingly easy to read and in fact slowed down the play considerably as by the time he has passed the defence is set and its very hard to get the ball further wide.

McNamara needs to focus on backs scoring points, not forwards. Having rewatched the tries from the first test, it was a mistake to think that was likely to be repeated. Hardaker's knee aside, every other try NZ would have been really disappointed to let in.

McNamara needs to get the forwards to do their job - make yards and quick PTB. A pass or offload every now and then. But not dominating the play.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Graham's passing became a problem at Canterbury when it went from being used sparingly to effectively using him as a halfback on every play. It became increasingly easy to read and in fact slowed down the play considerably as by the time he has passed the defence is set and its very hard to get the ball further wide.
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I disagree - the Dogs are at their best when he is at first receiver. He made the duds that are Hodkinson and Reynolds look good enough to play State of Origin. Only when Graham was missing in the early part of 2015 were they found out for the mugs they truly are when at first and second receiver rather than second and third. No coincidence that when Graham came back into the side and fit again the Dogs looked threatening all the way up to the referee effectively ending their semi-final with a dodgy call vs Roosters.

I do agree however that overkill is bad. Same for any play though. England are not good enough to utilise Graham's strengths to put it bluntly and thus, his touches are often wasted and reflect poorly on him.

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That's the point - the Dogs went into overkill on the forwards as halfback thing. They were and are at their best when they mixed it up. When Graham first started passing it set up tries as other front rows weren't used to defending against it. The problem was when they started using it at the expense of their halfbacks. Hodkinson and Reynolds are pretty limited, but it got to the point where they were being cut out of the play by their forwards with Graham at times only playing as a halfback. Its all about balance.

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Quote: Orrell Lad "Here's a change for the final test, some aggression! Totally absent from the series so far, say for the exception of SOL's hit on Blair and a couple of big hits from Whare. Seriously needs some biff to kickstart the game on Saturday.

Can I suggest England 'walk up' to the Haka, would at least generate some atmosphere 2.56689453125:10
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