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| Quote Fully="Fully"Yes they did - they've appeared in 2010 and 2011 Grand Finals. They decided not submit a licence for this period but that was their own choice. Given another SL position up for stake and the opportunity to submit one, I think they would'"
The didnt meet the minimum requirements with regards to the Stadium and Crowds.
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| Quote Homer_J_Simpson="Homer_J_Simpson"We probably could, but there's only one way to find out.
However, the question that lots of Cappers are asking themselves at the moment is do we want to be part of Super League? From where we are sat, our league is way more interesting, competitive and entertaining.
IMHO the standard and entertainment value of Super League (seen on TV) declines on a weekly basis, whereas the games I see on Premier Sports keep getting better and better, including the CC1 games they show.'"
I completely agree as a Fax fan i think there`s been some cracking games in the championship, when you look at SL fixtures on tv the result seems to be a foregone conclusion no potential for an upset. Also should be a belter of a game if Fax & Fev meet in Grand Final should be shown on BBC then Sky might regret not having the Championships as they said it didnt bring anything to there package. 
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| Quote Fully="Fully"Neither - Fev.
Bigger derby potential with Leeds, Cas and Wakefield.
Fax's nearest derby would be Hudds and Toulouse in this economic climate would be financial suicide.'"
Not that it matters but why do Fev get to claim Leeds as a Derby game when it is almost exactly the same distance from The Shay to Headingley as it is from POR?
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| Quote Fax Machine="Fax Machine"Not that it matters but why do Fev get to claim Leeds as a Derby game when it is almost exactly the same distance from The Shay to Headingley as it is from POR?'"
I wasn't giving Leeds as a derby to anyone. I was merely stating that Fev would have derbies v Cas, Leeds and Wakey, so would more than likely have bigger crowds and also have bigger crowds at Cas and Wakey too.
Fax may have Leeds as a derby and Huddersfield as well but I'd be surprised if the latter fixture would generate a similar crowd to that of Fev v Cas/Wakey/Leeds.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"I wasn't giving Leeds as a derby to anyone. I was merely stating that Fev would have derbies v Cas, Leeds and Wakey, so would more than likely have bigger crowds and also have bigger crowds at Cas and Wakey too.
Fax may have Leeds as a derby and Huddersfield as well but I'd be surprised if the latter fixture would generate a similar crowd to that of =#0000FFFev v Cas/Wakey/Leeds.'"
Got to say that the "triumvirate" sounds mouth watering. I think you'll get too many people arguing against such a concentration of clubs in one smallish city though. But still, i wouldn't mind following those rivalries during the season - as a neutral observer of course 
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| There is always the chance that rumours of our demise have been somewhat exaggerated.
If, by some miracle it transpires they HAVE, I'll come gunning for some of you lot.
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"Can Halifax really attract 9000 fans and close to 1 mill pound in corporate/investor income? That is what is needed to be in SL and sustainable these days. Basically 1 mill in grants, 1 mill in fan income, 1 mill in sponsorship/benefactor income.'"
Just remind me what sport is again please..
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"I think any club that can't generate 2.5mill-3mill min isn't going to be in SL for the long haul. If you are going to add a new team then it should at least be looking like they will be around for a while. Only way to not have that sort of income is to not spend the full cap but then we end up with an even more less competitve league.
Of those teams you have listed London have a investor bringing them up to that income level, Bradford- well we know what happened there, Widnes, Cas, Salford, Wakefield are all weak teams on the field largely due tp teh fact they probably don;t have this level of income. Why add another team just to join that pack?'"
When you say generate upto 3million is that without director and tv income?
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| Quote Adeybull="Adeybull"There is always the chance that rumours of our demise have been somewhat exaggerated.
If, by some miracle it transpires they HAVE, I'll come gunning for some of you lot.'"
i think its become obvious there is going to be no demise in bradford any time soon..
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| Quote j.c="j.c"Just remind me what sport is again please..'"
Professional sport is a business, same as any other business you need a positive profit and loss statement at the end of the year or you won't be in business very long.
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| Quote j.c="j.c"When you say generate upto 3million is that without director and tv income?'"
No including. Seems to me that to be a competitive and sustainable SL club paying full salary cap you need around that amount of income. Very simplistically it seems to break into roughly three main areas of income:
1mill SL tv grant
1 mill from fans (gate takings, merchandise, lotteries etc)
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| Quote JB Down Under="JB Down Under"No including. Seems to me that to be a competitive and sustainable SL club paying full salary cap you need around that amount of income. Very simplistically it seems to break into roughly three main areas of income:
1mill SL tv grant
1 mill from fans (gate takings, merchandise, lotteries etc)
1 mill from sponsorships/corporate box sales/director investment'"
Average 10,000 and that equates to 1.3 in Ticket revenue (Ian Lenegan reckons it's closeto a tenner a pop averaged out over the season)
The same again in residuals (merch/beer/food)
The same again in TV money...
there's the better part of 4 million already......before you put an advert on a shirt of flog a prawn sarnie in a box or take a brass farthing from a sugar daddy....
The holy grail for SL clubs should be to get to 10k averages....then build from there, but some clubs are still putting the cart before the horse.
Bradford had the right idea BTW.......they just got their forecasting wrong.....it would have taken 5 to 7 years of cheap ST's before you could start to up the price.....build the loyalty, then gradually squeeze the fans for a few extra notes.
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