Play a team missing 5 or 6 from your first 17 - you lose. It's literally happened the last 4 times you've done it. We all called it on this thread yet you two claimed you would still win. You have claimed unbeaten seasons and the best squad the league has ever seen, and yet you play a weak team at the worst side in the league who are "wigan level" and you lose.

Wigan have been playing without our first choice players for years. Last year we played the whole season with Willie Isa in the centres and missing our first two choice fullbacks. 2019 we never once got our best 13 on the park and had a pack full of kids for the main part.

You have a superb 1-17 that is definitely the best in the league and can drop feed some quality kids in there whne you like because your injury record is decent, but your SQUAD simply isn't that good and if you endured the injury crisis the rest of the league has had in recent years then IMO you wouldn't have had the same dominant period you have had you would have fell short in semi finals etc like those years you mention judder.

All opinions of course, but after london twice, salford and now toulouse I'm pretty confident with mine.

I started this whole thread as the Saints defeat had more than a sense of inevitability about it from the moment we announced a list of injuries after beating Warrington. I didn't claim we'd still win, I said 'you could argue we should still win' etc. I have never mentioned us going unbeaten or that we're the best side ever either. If we have a few injuries and get a couple of cards even Wigan might beat us, I don't see the issue with what I posted. Talking about injuries, you're Jai Field getting a knock away from being St Pats.

I think he's talking nonsense both of us have said nothing about claiming a win.......he's just made it up.

I,m not 100% sure but I don't think we have claimed going undefeated either, Scully mentioned it in the media but he doesn't speak for the Saints Fans on here, Egg Chasing again is making things up.

Apologies...you "argued" you could win rather than saying you would.

Fair enough, Egg Chasing, we await the next bout of banter.

I'll be keeping quiet ahead of Good Friday, unless you have 5 or 6 out that is.

Saints where beaten by the better team end off

Finally a honest comment by a St Helens fan

Can't win em all

Don’t need to take any players out of Wigan’s team and they will still lose a load of games this season.

That is your opinion which could well be proven wrong over time.