When you find a dictionary definition that shows aggression = punching someone then come back.

For anyone blaming Wane for what Flower did, I think you seem to be not quite understanding that adults are responsible for their own decisions! Wane never told him to punch another player, and he never made him do it.

Wane may have some responsibility in getting his players over-hyped, but it's up to Flower to use that responsibly. He didn't. Hence he got a ban.

As for Wane saying he wants more aggression, aggression doesn't mean punching. Stop being precious.

I don't think for a minute Wane meant he wanted him to go out and throw more punches, but it doesn't really matter what he meant - the fact is, his player is returning from a long ban for violence on the grandest stage of our game, his 'more aggressive' comment to the media is ill-informed and doesn't create a good impression, particularly to the casual viewer who will have just seen a replay of the incident and then hears the coach saying he wants to see 'more aggression' - it's not a good look for the game.

I'd say he needs to engage brain and think about the impression he's giving of our game before commenting in public - having said that, he absolutely comes across as the type of bloke that would like our game to have the reputation of being played by 'meat head thugs who you should be scared of' - he certainly wants his team to have that reputation.

I've not actually heard Wane's comments. But did he actually mean "I want him to come back and be more aggressive than he was before." Or did he mean; "before his ban he was an aggressive player and I want more of the same."

The words "more aggression" in isolation can mean either.

It was something along the lines of 'I don't want him coming back being soft, I want him to run hard, tackle hard and be even more aggressive and if he isn't, he'll be at Workington'...

It's was an attempt to try and say he doesn't want him to go soft, or have demons in his head because of what he did - it's just comes across terrible and does nothing for the reputation of Wane, Wigan or Rugby League - it completely backs up the 'thugby league' ethos, whether that's what he intended or not...

Anyone would think Ben had just come out of jail for attempted murder, ffs it's was a couple of punches you see worse on a night out, rugby is a tough, physical game where you need aggression or you will get injured if you start going into or tackling not aggressive and 100% committed. Let's bloody move on with the whole saga I've had enough of it now.

P.s. What a stirring git eddy Hemings is.

To be fair, if you saw what Flower did on a night out, there probably would be a jail sentence handed down!

You could say that about any incident to be fair.

Recent rugby league has been littered with acts every bit as nasty as the one from last years Grand final. In fact our game has always had its fair share of nasty incidents.

What Flower did was pretty wrong, but apart from having a sore head for a few days, Hohaia was not seriously hurt.

We could probably all think of plenty that were nasty, calculated and left the victim in a much worse state. Still it was the GF and did draw unwanted attention to the game. However the fall out and subsequent dross spat out across traditional and social media has been an absolute joke.

Really? I'm struggling to think of recent RL incidents as bad as that. I'd say the last one to qualify in the same bracket was Chase on Ropati, after that it was probably Newton on Long.

A sore head? Hohaia was not seriously hurt due to luck. It was a terrible act that deserved a long punishment.

Almost every word of that is patently and blatantly untrue. As Him has suggested, there are very few incidents that you can compare to Flower's which is why it received such media attention and such a lengthy punishment. I'm glad that the authorities saw the incident differently to you, because otherwise that moment could have caused the game permanent damage.

Westwood's sly, blindside attack on Green the year before was worse.

I've not seen anyone bagging Flower - most are happy he's done his time and is moving on.

It's Wane's choice of words to the media that are silly!

Where in my post do i make ANY reference to the "authorities"?

I quite clearly stated MEDIA

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No complaints from me regarding ban.

IMO opinion both incidents which caused these injuries were as bad. In fact the latter was much worse IMO. Premeditated and calculated

You stated that what Flower did was no worse than a lot of other things you see - I disagree, I think it's much worse than most things I've seen, and the authorities agree with me. Sorry you went to all the trouble of putting in big letters and pictures to emphasise a point I didn't miss. If you really think Ben Westwood's swinging arm was as bad as a punch to the head of a practically unconscious guy lying defenceless on his back then there is clearly no point talking to you because you're delusional.

All Wane has done is to try to make sure that Flower retains his aggression.

EVERY player that plays the sport relies on Aggression. Obviously that is controlled aggression, but aggression non the less.

Without aggression a prop forward would be rendered totally useless and may as well quit the game.

Ben Flower has shown nothing but remorse for what happened and i can imagine he is petrified of it ever happening again.

Remember what happened to both Eubank and Benn?

Neither were ever the same after their respective incidents. A symptom of them losing aggression from fear of the consequence.

All Wane is trying to do is stop Flower from being scared to get stuck in.