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| 1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. Widdop
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Crabtree
11. Farrell
12. S Burgess
13. O'Loughlin
14. Burrow
15. G Burgess
16. Hill
17. Westwood
18. Brough/Myler
19. McIlorum
20. Mossop
21. Hardaker
22. Ellis
23. Ward
24. Ratchford
It's been a long time since England/GB could boast such a fast and powerful 1-5 as that
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| i think we have got the strongest selection issues we have had in a long time going to see how many teams i can create leaving out interchange as can be created anyway
t1
tomkins
hall
reed
cudjoe
briscoe
sinfield
widdop
hill
roby
g burgess
s burgess
westwood
ellis
t2
ratchford
charnley
watkins
atkins
lynham
brough
myler
carvell
lunt
graham
hock
farrell
harrison
t3
lomax
riley
ablett
hardaker
r evans
widdop
chase
morley
houghton
l burgess
jjb
wilkin
o'loughlin
think 3 different teams but name the last time anyone could put 3 decent english teams together
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| 1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. cudjoe
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Sinfield
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Peacock (Out of retirement)
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. S Burgess
14. Burrow
15. G Burgess
16. Hill
17. Farrell
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| Tomkins
Charnley
Cudjoe
Watkins
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Crabtree
Farrell
S Burgess
O'Loughlin
Burrow
G Burgess
Hill
Westwood
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| Not many picking chase but you can bet he will be our starting 7 again come october.wouldnt be surprised to see the usuals in wilkin jjb and morley in the 17 despite us seeming to have plenty of better and fresher options.it will be a shame.
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| If Ellis is fit and in-form he'll be there, and so he should be. He might not break the line very often, but he makes yards with good angles, plays long minutes, and more importantly we need some of our mobile forwards to be able to assist the outside backs in defence. Make no mistake if our threequarters are isolated against their opposite numbers they'll get fried.
On the bench I wouldn't pick Burrow. I just can't see his 'scoots' doing much good against Australia. If we go with a smaller player I'd rather have Hardaker as cover for 1-5 (or with a view to purposely moving Tomkins up to 6/7).
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "
On the bench I wouldn't pick Burrow. I just can't see his 'scoots' doing much good against Australia. If we go with a smaller player I'd rather have Hardaker as cover for 1-5 (or with a view to purposely moving Tomkins up to 6/7).'"
I'd go with 4 forwards personally. Use the depth we have there to our advantage.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "On the bench I wouldn't pick Burrow. I just can't see his 'scoots' doing much good against Australia. If we go with a smaller player I'd rather have Hardaker as cover for 1-5 (or with a view to purposely moving Tomkins up to 6/7).'" Might be a good idea. From My club, lomax may also be a decent shout - covering the back positions and can also slot in at hooker or 13. That's assuming he gets himself fit again.
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "If Ellis is fit and in-form he'll be there, and so he should be. He might not break the line very often, but he makes yards with good angles, plays long minutes, and more importantly we need some of our mobile forwards to be able to assist the outside backs in defence. Make no mistake if our threequarters are isolated against their opposite numbers they'll get fried.
On the bench I wouldn't pick Burrow. I just can't see his 'scoots' doing much good against Australia. If we go with a smaller player I'd rather have Hardaker as cover for 1-5 (or with a view to purposely moving Tomkins up to 6/7).'"
Regarding the Burrow section. I seem to remember Luke Robinson scoring against the Aussies with a scoot in 2010, and Robinson (with respect) is not Rob Burrow. He could trouble the big men through the middle, Matt Scott, James Tamou etc are not exactly lightweight and nimble. I would prefer Lunt personally, I think he is a better all round player but Burrow could change the game.
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| TBH I'd never taken much note of Lunt before last year, but he was excellent at the end of the year and in the GF. His pass for Ablett's try was exactly the kind of unspectacular but quality play we'll need to trouble Australia.
I have no problem with an in-form Lomax on the bench either BTW. What I don't think we have is a game-breaking back, but we may have a couple of forwards who can play short but effective minutes in Hock and George Burgess.
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "Regarding the Burrow section. I seem to remember Luke Robinson scoring against the Aussies with a scoot in 2010, and Robinson (with respect) is not Rob Burrow. He could trouble the big men through the middle, Matt Scott, James Tamou etc are not exactly lightweight and nimble. I would prefer Lunt personally, I think he is a better all round player but Burrow could change the game.'"
You may be right, but I still worry about giving up weight against the Aussies.
What about Daryl Clarke?
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "You may be right, but I still worry about giving up weight against the Aussies.
What about Daryl Clarke?'"
Clark has got a bit of growing up to do yet. Still to naive in defence for the Aussies. He will be a big player in a few years though.
If Burrow was to play, I'm sure he will defend one in from the sideline and Sinfield will move in as is with Leeds.
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| Quote: Barbed Wire "Clark has got a bit of growing up to do yet. Still to naive in defence for the Aussies. He will be a big player in a few years though.'" Fair enough. I've only seen him in glimpses.
Quote: Barbed Wire "If Burrow was to play, I'm sure he will defend one in from the sideline and Sinfield will move in as is with Leeds.'" Whilst that's ok for burrow, it still means lighter guys are getting pushed inwards. If burrow defends the centre, a half has to defend the second row and the centre inside him again. Its still leaving us lighter than we could be.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Fair enough. I've only seen him in glimpses.
Whilst that's ok for burrow, it still means lighter guys are getting pushed inwards. If burrow defends the centre, a half has to defend the second row and the centre inside him again. Its still leaving us lighter than we could be.'"
But you would be spelling Burrow with Roby, who is very strong defender, and have him playing in a very big pack (as strange as it sounds that Burrow is actually a forward)
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| Maybe this is just my opinion but,
Do you all actually watch nrl/melbourne matches regularly this season?
Pretty much everyone has put Widdop in without question, despite the fact he has not really had a good season, I know the Melbourne fans aren't happy with him and many are shouting for him to be dropped for Finch (though this may have something to do with the fact they are annoyed he is leaving for the dragons)
Personally I think Widdop is better suited at fullback or in the centres.
I realise that we don't really have that many 'better' options but I'd say Brough is certainly much more deserving of a spot at the moment over Widdop.
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