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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



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Quote: Starbug "]

Strange isn't it .........'"

Nope.
I doubt anyone is under any illusion that something has gone on here...and that something is a tad fishy to say the least.

What is strange is the repetative nature of every f^cking thread on this "important topic"..............I mean how many different ways can people look at this?

It's a class A cock up and the players, the club and the rfl, whatever they say, are all responsible in one way or another but in reality, very little will change as a result of it

see.......you've got me at it now icon_lol.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "FFS......
Why don't the RFL just dock them all the points they gained whilst these players were "illegal".........it won't change the fact they got a licence, but it might just shut the moaning flat earth anti-expansionist t055ers up
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Quote: Maximus Decimus "They might be investigating Celtic Crusaders separately with is another matter but the RFL have suggested that they are waiting for a report on the matter. I'm suggesting that from what I have been led to believe, the UKBA don't produce reports.

I doubt very much they are investigating the RFL as well. Whether or not they were involved it is impossible to prove. They can just play dumb and suggest it is nothing to do with them which of course might be the case.'"

The UKBA may not produce reports as such, but what they [iwill[/i do at the end of their investigation is take action against CC or not depending on whether they deem them to have done anything wrong. I suggest that this is what the RFL is waiting for, which seems entirely logical.

As the situation stands at the moment, CC have not been proven to have breached either RFL regulations or the law of the land. They therefore cannot be penalised by either the UKBA or the RFL. Should the UKBA investigation find them to have been complicit with the deception carried out by the 6 players then I imagine they will receive sanctions from both bodies.

The entirely sensible thing for the RFL to do at the moment is what they are doing - wait and see if the club has done anything wrong.

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Quote: Starbug "]

Strange isn't it

Normally there would be loads of criticism hurled back at us ' flatcap followers of licence losers ' , but this time there isn't anywhere near as much , is there ?

Why ?

Quite simply because everybody knows they know , this is another of those ' kings new clothes ' situations

All you lot are stood there saying , ohh it's just clerical error , UKBA being y , it's the players fault , just moaning flat caps again , storm in a tea cup , show me a link All you've done there is jump to a number of conclusions based on little or no evidence, coloured by your personal prejudices. You may be right, you may not be, so complaining about people putting forward alternative scenarios seems a little premature TBH.

I'm in favour of expansion, and I want CC to do well. But if either they or the RFL have been guilty of bending or breaking the rules in this matter I will quite happily criticise them for it. At the moment there is no conclusive evidence that this has happened, however.

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Quote: Starbug "They weren't , the UKBA , the RFL , the clubs and the players all knew about the change of rules back in 2005

The UKBA and the RFL then aranged for the players with contracts that ran over to complete them

In fact this just makes it worse , the RFL knew for certain back in 2005 that these visa's were strictly amatuer use , they along with the UKBA allowed a certain club [ Gateshead ] to continue using them

" From that point onwards the RFL adopted a policy whereby it agreed to register some overseas players , while not encouraging the practice "

So the RFL knew that these players were using those visa's to play at Celtic

Basically an admittance of guilt

What happened before 2005 is not relevant

What happened after nov2008 is not relevant

Somebody at the RFL knew what was going on and they knew it was not legal'"


yet if everything you were to have put here was the case, If all amateur migrant players who were playing on holiday or student visas for NL1/NL2 teams in 2008 were playing out their contracts then these players must have been amateur players signed to 4 year contracts to take them through the season from when the rules changed in 2005, the 2006 season, 2007 and 2008 only to be surprised they couldnt be re-registered in 2009

but thats not what happened, what happened was Mcphail and Jamieson were allowed to play as amatuers on a holiday visa because the had jobs in the local area, the same as celtic did, then a change in the rulings before the beginning of THIS season, meant that any player who received any payment at all for playing RL, even if it wasnt their main source of income now needed a tier 2 visa rather than a standard one, and a ruling by UKBA before THIS season that [ino overseas migrant may play rugby league with a professional or semi-professional club as an amateur.[/i

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Quote: Starbug "]

Strange isn't it

Normally there would be loads of criticism hurled back at us ' flatcap followers of licence losers ' , but this time there isn't anywhere near as much , is there ?

Why ?

Quite simply because everybody knows they know , this is another of those ' kings new clothes ' situations

All you lot are stood there saying , ohh it's just clerical error , UKBA being y , it's the players fault , just moaning flat caps again , storm in a tea cup , show me a link
Or maybe you are all scared sheetless of criticising the ' gods ' at the RFL in case they spot who you support and ' persecuit your club
It never ceases to amaze me that there are some who adopt this defence mechanism at the moment some ill thought out scheme has gone amiss.

Maybe they adopted it when the RFL planned a world cup game between NZ Maori and Lebanon at Reading on a cold Tuesday evening.

I despair at those stuck in a pscychosis that any criticism of anything that is out of the so called Rugby heartland is a besmitchment to the game.

Let me spell this out. Celtic are guilty of a gross oversight, and their operations this season have been simillarly devoid of substance.

If they were an employee in an a company they would be on some sort of perfromance management.

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Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "It never ceases to amaze me that there are some who adopt this defence mechanism at the moment some ill thought out scheme has gone amiss.

Maybe they adopted it when the RFL planned a world cup game between NZ Maori and Lebanon at Reading on a cold Tuesday evening.

I despair at those stuck in a pscychosis that any criticism of anything that is out of the so called Rugby heartland is a besmitchment to the game.

Let me spell this out. Celtic are guilty of a gross oversight, and their operations this season have been simillarly devoid of substance.

If they were an employee in an a company they would be on some sort of perfromance management.'"


Nah everybody who raises a point that makes Celtic look bad has an agenda, quite simple really.

I've figured out the Phil Clarke one, apparently he turns out for Orrell RU these days so he's clearly trying to bring down RL from within.

I'll let you know when I've figured out Hadfield and Wilson's agenda's.

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[color=#FF4000]Gone![/color]:



I love that this thread is here.

It keeps the knobs off our board.

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Quote: Grendel "I love that this thread is here.

It keeps the knobs off our board.'"


Are you sure

Better nip off and check icon_wink.gif

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Okay then SOME of the knobs icon_biggrin.gif

You're always welcome Starbug. I may well disagree with what you say, but it's considered stuff and your takes are usually funny.

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At the end of their first year in SL Crusaders probably wanted to offload some of their foreign players and replace them with better quality imports - I know that's what we did at Catalans. Having the govt step in and force them to offload these players may well turn out to their benefit - they will have to find 6 top players for next year, no relying on average quality foreigners, and they get the last few matches of the year playing their local academy players, which will help for next year.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: belgianxiii "At the end of their first year in SL Crusaders probably wanted to offload some of their foreign players and replace them with better quality imports - I know that's what we did at Catalans. Having the govt step in and force them to offload these players may well turn out to their benefit - they will have to find 6 top players for next year, no relying on average quality foreigners, and they get the last few matches of the year playing their local academy players, which will help for next year.'"


A positive slant on a discraceful act of manipulation

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