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| Quote: Call Me God "so? His latest statement blames players who won't leave, the stadium owner, Rimmer, the dog eating his homework......he is to blame because it was his job to plan for all eventualities.
He's a salesman. He knows counting cash before it's banked is often fatal.......in this case I hope it isn't, but he deserves no sympathy and never to be allowed near a RL side again!'"
Yes,but i never alluded to that 2nd statement,On that 2nd statement you're right. DB had to spend that money (£1.2m)on players,he did that, and it went wrong with poor management/decisions.There are a lot of bitter Leythers atm believe you me.So yes,the failing rest with DB.
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| Quote: freddies wig "Yeah. Worked well for Bradford, Crusaders and Widnes...'"
Licensing was never a measure to prevent poor management.
Widnes are probably the example of where licencing did work. They established structures necessary to sustain them in SL.
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "Licensing was never a measure to prevent poor management.
Widnes are probably the example of where licencing did work. They established structures necessary to sustain them in SL.'"
Hardly been successful.. Lost to London last week
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "Licensing was never a measure to prevent poor management. '"
Spot on, yet it’s one of the key reasons why people think it should come back to prevent/reduce the risk of owners/chairmen messing things up.
So we’ll end up changing the structure again because some owners can’t be trusted yet at the same time these are the same guys trying to lead a breakaway with talk of better tv and sponsorship deals.
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| As I said much earlier in the thread it doesn't matter what structure SL has or what fanciful plans you might have for checking an owners credentials, if a clubs owner is the main financier (the majority of clubs have this issue) and they choose not to continue, the club faces financial ruin.
People may be critical to the Leigh owner, but its his money he's put in and it is completely up to him if he decides for whatever reason that he is going to walk away.
But for the grace of (the rugby league) god, there go most teams.
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| Quote: bramleyrhino "Licensing was never a measure to prevent poor management.
Widnes are probably the example of where licencing did work. They established structures necessary to sustain them in SL.'"
then the goal posts got moved and they have just been trying to survive, if they did not have relegation threatening them they could have built a side to challenge rather than finishing bottom most years. really believe if we stuck to franchising and made the hard decisions, we would be seeing the fruits of it over last couple of years, instead the game is spiraling downwards.
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: rollin thunder "then the goal posts got moved and they have just been trying to survive, if they did not have relegation threatening them they could have built a side to challenge rather than finishing bottom most years. really believe if we stuck to franchising and made the hard decisions, we would be seeing the fruits of it over last couple of years, instead the game is spiraling downwards.'"
How come Cas have been able to become a top 4 team in this time and Wakey have gone from MPG to three top 8 finishes.
If we stuck with franchising they’d still be a club struggling at the bottom of the table, it might still be Widnes or another club and you could use the structure to blame it on.
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| Quote: freddies wig "Yeah. Worked well for Bradford, Crusaders and Widnes...'"
Its their favourite system so no matter how much of a failure it was they cant change their minds.You cant educate pork.
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| Someone always has to come bottom of the pile. Unless you create a situation where the bottom teams are given some sort of advantage, it's always going to be difficult to get away from the bottom as well. Franchising probably makes it harder to improve if you're at the bottom of the pile. Yep, you can build without the fear of relegation, and hope that you can maybe make 8th or 9th rather than 11th or 12th.
Australia and the US both give advantages to the teams finishing towards the bottom of their leagues, and unless this happens with RL in the UK, then franchising (with or without regional teams) will never work.
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| Quote: j.c "Its their favourite system so no matter how much of a failure it was they cant change their minds.You cant educate pork.'"
As apposed to your R&r system that has failed to make the game top dog in its own back yard and failing miserably. No wonder the game is dying on its with fans like you. And it probably deserves to die. But at least you can have your traditional heartlands game for northern flat cap
Please refrain from using profanity. Posts edited.
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| Quote: rollin thunder "As apposed to your R&r system that has failed to make the game top dog in its own back yard and failing muserably. No wonder the game is dying on its booty with fans like you. And it probably deserves to die. But at least you can have your traditional heartlands game for northern flat cap.'"
why do expansionists hate the north so much?
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| Quote: rollin thunder "As apposed to your R&r system that has failed to make the game top dog in its own back yard and failing miserably. No wonder the game is dying on its booty with fans like you. And it probably deserves to die. But at least you can have your traditional heartlands game for northern flat cap.'"
Do you mind
I dont wear a flat cap
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| Quote: EastHullUTR "why do expansionists hate the north so much?
That's a wrong perception mate. It's not that we hate the north, we don't, we just want to see clubs make a decent effort in promoting and expanding the sport in their own catchment area but most have failed to do this in 123 years.
I'm all for seeing RL thrive in the Manchester metro region and hope that MCR Rangers will get up the ladder a notch or two and the heritage clubs like Oldham, Leigh etc strengthen in all areas.
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| Quote: RLRealist "That's a wrong perception mate.'"
Is it?
As a suvverner I look at wakey and Castleford trying to build a pair of white elephants a "nine iron" apart and shake my head..... It's all well and good resisting a merger but christ on a bike at least share 1 new stadium..... Or is the Calder awash with investors throwing cash at clubs with fewer than 4k Gates?
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| He's an attention seeker is Dez - how many tear in his eye rambling statements is he going to make, deflecting blame for Leigh's woes onto anyone but himself?
There are some issues with the structure - but no one forced him to bet everything on trying to buy instant success; that one is entirely on him.
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