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| Quote: gutterfax "Any news on salary caps and overseas allowances yet?'"
You lot can have as many Aussies as you want.....again !
BUT, you are limited to one signing from Peru.
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| The thing is how many teams have slacked off going into games this year as they are in a comfort zone. So teams slacking off will not be uncommon.
For example, Next week is Widnes v Hull KR.
So what are the odds Widnes will put out a weakened side as the CC is due the following week and they have a cushion beneath them already???
Whether there was relegation or not, Bradford and London are with several games to go in a position of a lame duck.
Hull had a good performance tonight, but come 4 weeks time may also be in a position where they can no longer make the playoffs.
The new system puts more meaning back into the league fixtures, but in any system there will be redundant fixtures.
As for the difference in salary caps. Do 12 teams pay out 1.8 million currently????
I'd be surprised if they do and the difference between 1.8 million is closed by raising the second tier up to £1 million.
To be critical that they stand little chance under the new system, were as currently they stand no chance, seems somewhat ironic.
There will never be a cure all system. If we had a league of 24 - 28 teams people from both ends would moan, about dilution of the top end and little chance of the bottom end progressing.
What I like is that my team can't sit on it's backside for 50% of the season safe in the knowledge that they are better than 50% of the league and therefore only need to put the effort in for the big games.
Under the current system rightly or wrongly there is the impression that it's not close at the top due to teams competing for top spot, but it's close at the top due to teams not being fussed about finishing top.
I'm happy to see were we are in 3 years and before the profits of doom come out and say it will be a disaster, we don't know that, it's just what you think. No matter how many times you say fact.
The biggest issue that is still not pinned down for me will be season tickets and how clubs go about selling them.
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Please please please do not bring bonus points to superleague. Never liked the idea - I don't understand why losers still deserve points, it's like giving the kid who finishes last in the egg and spoon race on sports day a medal for winning in spirit'"
Agreed. 100% agreed.
Bonus points are the most stupid idea since the pizza fork was invented.
I've taken to twitter to register my opposition at the RFL, and it's not very often that I do that. Since twitter is for saddos, unlike RL forums.
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| Can't believe what I am reading in some posts. Khlav especially gets everything wrong, people not able to work out how many games teams play in a season, people not knowing the rules now and smokey with his usual plays on words
It really is not that difficult at all. It seems our education system has failed a few on here. Either that or they are just stupid
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| Quote: DemonUK "Can't believe what I am reading in some posts. Khlav especially gets everything wrong, people not able to work out how many games teams play in a season, people not knowing the rules now and smokey with his usual plays on words
It really is not that difficult at all. It seems our education system has failed a few on here. Either that or they are just stupid'"
Based on the posts which I read yesterday, I reckon you must need a degree in order to even begin to comprehend test cricket!
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "There needs to be more of a reward for finishing top of the SL
I can see sides sitting back once they are guaranteed a top four spot.'"
Yep, could see the top four all sitting back this year....
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| At the end of this current round the league points of the top 4 will probably be
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I think a home fixture is enough of an advantage for having come top. 2nd chance games would be disproportionately favourable.
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| Quote: DemonUK "It really is not that difficult at all. It seems our education system has failed a few on here. Either that or they are just stupid'"
People on here (hardcore fans) will want to understand it though - you try explaining that to the casual or new fan and they'll glaze over, or look at you like you're off your head! Are they stupid too?
I know about those reactions because I've already tried going through it with a couple of different mates. I understand it, but I bet most on here had to read it through and think about each part of it (I certainly did) and it shouldn't have to be like that IMO.
Way, way too complex - it's too much like hard work for everyone but the serious fan to get to grips with - and is that good for the sport as a whole??
I don't like how there's a different playoff system in each division of 8 either - although I suppose that's the same now (top 8 w/club call; top 8 without; top 5)
One of my best friends, who has watched League all her life summed it up best: "Rugby League. Remember when it used to be simple?"
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| Let's just hope Bonus Points aren't introduced.
Rewarding losing is not the way forward.
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| The new structure is as we know actually very simple and will be brilliant for the game in this country.
All supporters don't actually need to get it now, in one go.
As always, just turn and support your team and try to get a win every match.
Once the 2015 season starts to unfold, it will be very clear to all supporters match by match how their club is doing.
What percentage of those who are interested in soccer could explain today how the Champions League will work - from qualifiers to group stages to knock-out, for example. Not many people could - but who cares? It doesn't matter.
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| Quote: A-Fire-Inside "People on here (hardcore fans) will want to understand it though - you try explaining that to the casual or new fan and they'll glaze over, or look at you like you're off your head! Are they stupid too?
I know about those reactions because I've already tried going through it with a couple of different mates. I understand it, but I bet most on here had to read it through and think about each part of it (I certainly did) and it shouldn't have to be like that IMO.
Way, way too complex - it's too much like hard work for everyone but the serious fan to get to grips with - and is that good for the sport as a whole??
I don't like how there's a different playoff system in each division of 8 either - although I suppose that's the same now (top 8 w/club call; top 8 without; top 5)
One of my best friends, who has watched League all her life summed it up best
How did you explain it to your friend? Where you positive about it or appeared in disgust about it? Could have been very influencing on his understanding of willingness to understand.
Next time you see your friend, ask him...
How are the Champions League qualifies worked out?
How does the current top eight play off system work?
How does the Super Bowl work?
I think "it's over complicated" is just a stock complaint for people who don't like change.
I'm sorry, but if you can't work it out, you're a bloody idiot. It's not difficult at all.
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| Quote: DemonUK "Can't believe what I am reading in some posts. Khlav especially gets everything wrong, people not able to work out how many games teams play in a season, people not knowing the rules now and smokey with his usual plays on words
It really is not that difficult at all. It seems our education system has failed a few on here. Either that or they are just stupid'" You would think with your superior intellect you would have understood the difference between too complex, and too complicated but it seems even genius such as yours can miss one.
Poor System, awfully branded and not supported by half of SL, its only got about 5 years anyway
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| I seem to remember the World Cup having quite an unusual (some might call it 'complicated') group structure.
The idea of two teams from different groups playing a group game didn't seem to turn fans away - why should this?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "How did you explain it to your friend? Where you positive about it or appeared in disgust about it? Could have been very influencing on his understanding of willingness to understand.
Next time you see your friend, ask him...
How are the Champions League qualifies worked out?
How does the current top eight play off system work?
How does the Super Bowl work?
I think "it's over complicated" is just a stock complaint for people who don't like change.
I'm sorry, but if you can't work it out, you're a bloody idiot. It's not difficult at all.'"
People can work it out, they shouldnt really have to work it out.
Nobody needs to understand how the Super Bowl play-offs work. Its a play-off straight knock out competition, its pretty simple.
Or the champions league qualifiers, which are by the way appallingly attended and played by minnows. hardly an endorsement of complexity.
The current top 8 is a little complicated, but again, its a play-off.
This is completely different, it becomes different competitions playing for different things. At any one point you need to not only know who is playing who but what the competition they are in is actually for because for the vast majority of clubs it changes. People cant dip in and out of this system and some will find that off-putting.
Besides even if these people are stupid, stupid peoples money is worth the same as a superbrain like yours
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "How did you explain it to your friend? Where you positive about it or appeared in disgust about it? Could have been very influencing on his understanding of willingness to understand.
Next time you see your friend, ask him...
How are the Champions League qualifies worked out?
How does the current top eight play off system work?
How does the Super Bowl work?
I think "it's over complicated" is just a stock complaint for people who don't like change.
I'm sorry, but if you can't work it out, you're a bloody idiot. It's not difficult at all.'"
I explained the facts of it and nothing more, and let them reach their own conclusion. I only voiced how I felt about it after I'd finished.
Have seen a few people referring to the NFL play-offs as being complicated when trying to justify this system, but they're really not are they? In fact, I explained them in one tweet yesterday. Could anyone do the same with the new RL structure?
When people actually start to care about the Champions League - ie when the groups are set - the competition from that point on is hardly complicated is it??
There's going to have to be some creative selling when it comes to flogging season tickets for 2015 I'd say - presume the 'extra' games will be all pay? That's worked out really well for play-off crowds in recent years hasn't it?
And the third 'Super 8' *cringe* is pretty pointless really isn't it - all those clubs are playing for is to avoid 7th and 8th. Real chance that by the time of the split there'd be teams adrift at the bottom anyway. In that scenario there'd be a lot more meaningless games than there is now!
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