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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Starbug "So Celtic Crusaders didnt cease to exist? , so where are they now?
So the Crusaders didnt cease to exist? , so where are they now?'"
Well Celtic Crusaders certainly didnt cease to exist in the year they reached the championship play-off final. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "and again you keep forgetting, possibly deliberately, that right now Fev have to try and be the best of a bunch of semi-pro sides who also get 0 funding and they were comfortably beaten by an SL basketcase. Under the new structure they will be competing with sides that get just over 3 times their funding, and if they get through that, they will be competing against teams who get three times the funding and probably three times the attendances, much much more in corporate and sponsorship.'"
Is it about teams, or clubs? ,make your mind up?
A well run efficient growing club? , or a basket case club with a succession of idiots running it? |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "So you play 23 games to get the chance to win something, as opposed to playing 23 games to get the chance to avoid losing something
Sounds similar to me'"
The league then knockout structure is popular throughout the world. It is used in most of the biggest competitions in the world.
I am not aware of any other structure in the world that part way through the season disregards previous points totals and starts a new league competition. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Is it about teams, or clubs? ,make your mind up? '" both
Quote: Starbug "
A well run efficient growing club? , or a basket case club with a succession of idiots running it?'" What? |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Well Celtic Crusaders certainly didnt cease to exist in the year they reached the championship play-off final.'"
That was 2007 , I said 2008 |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "the first 22 rounds are disregarded, thats not an opinion it is a fact. Every team will start again on 0 points.
And it is different from a play-off which you need to qualify for, and the position that you qualify in effects your route to the final. Again that isnt opinion it is fact.'"
So the positions after those 22 games are sorted alphabetically?
population?
combined shoe sizes?
points accumulated?
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and again you keep forgetting, possibly deliberately, that right now Fev have to try and be the best of a bunch of semi-pro sides who also get 0 funding and they were comfortably beaten by an SL basketcase. Under the new structure they will be competing with sides that get just over 3 times their funding, and if they get through that, they will be competing against teams who get three times the funding and probably three times the attendances, much much more in corporate and sponsorship.'"
Who is this basketcase team that beat us comfortably ???
And who is this Part time team you talk of, cant speak for other champ teams but Fev will be full time from 2015.
If Fev can't break the bottom four of super league so be it at least they may have the opportunity |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "The league then knockout structure is popular throughout the world. It is used in most of the biggest competitions in the world.
I am not aware of any other structure in the world that part way through the season disregards previous points totals and starts a new league competition.'"
Yes and promotion and relegation is popular throughout the world as well
There have been several major competitions with more than 1 knock out group stage played on a league basis culminating in 1 final elimination match, so whats different? |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "That was 2007 , I said 2008'"
no it wasnt, they were promoted through franchising when it began in 2009.
They played in the 2008 championship grand final. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: fevfan76 "So the positions after those 22 games are sorted alphabetically?
population?
combined shoe sizes?
points accumulated?'" The points are reset to 0. You can sort them at that point in to any order you want its not going to make a difference. Those 8 clubs then restart a new league.
Quote: fevfan76 "
Who is this basketcase team that beat us comfortably ??? '" hth
Quote: fevfan76 "
If Fev can't break the bottom four of super league so be it at least they may have the opportunity'" Why? why does giving Fev an opportunity to be one of the worst sides in SL supersede the growth and stability of the game as a whole?
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
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| Quote: Starbug "Yes and promotion and relegation is popular throughout the world as well'" not really. Yearly P+R in this format or the previous ones used are almost exclusive to European Soccer. Outside that most major sports dont have anything comparable.
Quote: Starbug "There have been several major competitions with more than 1 knock out group stage played on a league basis culminating in 1 final elimination match, so whats different?'" like? |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "no it wasnt, they were promoted through franchising when it began in 2009.
They played in the 2008 championship grand final.'"
You said the Crusaders ( not Celtic ) played in 2009 ,make your mind up? |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "not really. Yearly P+R in this format or the previous ones used are almost exclusive to European Soccer. Outside that most major sports dont have anything comparable.
like?'"
The biggest team sporting event in the world perhaps? |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "You said the Crusaders ( not Celtic ) played in 2009 ,make your mind up?'"
its at the top of this page you silly banana. You even quoted it 
is this where we see you pretend to get confused again? |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "The points are reset to 0. You can sort them at that point in to any order you want its not going to make a difference. Those 8 clubs then restart a new league.'"
Lol I mean the 22 games are not irrelevant, they sort out the positions in the league.
Quote: SmokeyTA "www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/match/rl3619046'"
Yet still better than many SL teams did against them last season
Quote: SmokeyTA "you can put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig. You can call Fev's squad full-time if you want. But that isnt a professional squad. '"
Getting paid full time to do a job is professional
Quote: SmokeyTA "Why? why does giving Fev an opportunity to be one of the worst sides in SL supersede the growth and stability of the game as a whole?'"
speculating again, you forgot to put "in your bias opinion"
Whywould Fev being in SL not help the growth of the game - go on real of another load of bull from your mind and speculation. look into your crystal ball you have and tell me our attendance would be crap because were from a hamlet. That we would end up skint and that players such as Hardaker, Burrows and briscoe still wouldn't play for us. |
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Teams in the first and third tiers of the eight-club format will carry their points over from the first 23 rounds but the middle-tier teams will start from scratch.
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