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Quote: Starbug "So Celtic Crusaders didnt cease to exist? , so where are they now?

So the Crusaders didnt cease to exist? , so where are they now?'"

Well Celtic Crusaders certainly didnt cease to exist in the year they reached the championship play-off final.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "and again you keep forgetting, possibly deliberately, that right now Fev have to try and be the best of a bunch of semi-pro sides who also get 0 funding and they were comfortably beaten by an SL basketcase. Under the new structure they will be competing with sides that get just over 3 times their funding, and if they get through that, they will be competing against teams who get three times the funding and probably three times the attendances, much much more in corporate and sponsorship.'"


Is it about teams, or clubs? ,make your mind up?

A well run efficient growing club? , or a basket case club with a succession of idiots running it?

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Quote: Starbug "So you play 23 games to get the chance to win something, as opposed to playing 23 games to get the chance to avoid losing something


Sounds similar to me'"

The league then knockout structure is popular throughout the world. It is used in most of the biggest competitions in the world.

I am not aware of any other structure in the world that part way through the season disregards previous points totals and starts a new league competition.

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Quote: Starbug "Is it about teams, or clubs? ,make your mind up? '"
both
Quote: Starbug "
A well run efficient growing club? , or a basket case club with a succession of idiots running it?'"
What?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "Well Celtic Crusaders certainly didnt cease to exist in the year they reached the championship play-off final.'"


That was 2007 , I said 2008

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Quote: SmokeyTA "the first 22 rounds are disregarded, thats not an opinion it is a fact. Every team will start again on 0 points.

And it is different from a play-off which you need to qualify for, and the position that you qualify in effects your route to the final. Again that isnt opinion it is fact.'"



So the positions after those 22 games are sorted alphabetically?
population?
combined shoe sizes?

points accumulated?


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and again you keep forgetting, possibly deliberately, that right now Fev have to try and be the best of a bunch of semi-pro sides who also get 0 funding and they were comfortably beaten by an SL basketcase. Under the new structure they will be competing with sides that get just over 3 times their funding, and if they get through that, they will be competing against teams who get three times the funding and probably three times the attendances, much much more in corporate and sponsorship.'"



Who is this basketcase team that beat us comfortably ???

And who is this Part time team you talk of, cant speak for other champ teams but Fev will be full time from 2015.

If Fev can't break the bottom four of super league so be it at least they may have the opportunity

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "The league then knockout structure is popular throughout the world. It is used in most of the biggest competitions in the world.

I am not aware of any other structure in the world that part way through the season disregards previous points totals and starts a new league competition.'"


Yes and promotion and relegation is popular throughout the world as well

There have been several major competitions with more than 1 knock out group stage played on a league basis culminating in 1 final elimination match, so whats different?

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Quote: Starbug "That was 2007 , I said 2008'"

no it wasnt, they were promoted through franchising when it began in 2009.

They played in the 2008 championship grand final.

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Quote: fevfan76 "So the positions after those 22 games are sorted alphabetically?
population?
combined shoe sizes?

points accumulated?'"
The points are reset to 0. You can sort them at that point in to any order you want its not going to make a difference. Those 8 clubs then restart a new league.

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Who is this basketcase team that beat us comfortably ??? '"
hth
you can put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig. You can call Fev's squad full-time if you want. But that isnt a professional squad.
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If Fev can't break the bottom four of super league so be it at least they may have the opportunity'"
Why? why does giving Fev an opportunity to be one of the worst sides in SL supersede the growth and stability of the game as a whole?

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Quote: Starbug "Yes and promotion and relegation is popular throughout the world as well'"
not really. Yearly P+R in this format or the previous ones used are almost exclusive to European Soccer. Outside that most major sports dont have anything comparable.
Quote: Starbug "There have been several major competitions with more than 1 knock out group stage played on a league basis culminating in 1 final elimination match, so whats different?'"
like?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: SmokeyTA "no it wasnt, they were promoted through franchising when it began in 2009.

They played in the 2008 championship grand final.'"


You said the Crusaders ( not Celtic ) played in 2009 ,make your mind up?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "not really. Yearly P+R in this format or the previous ones used are almost exclusive to European Soccer. Outside that most major sports dont have anything comparable.
like?'"


The biggest team sporting event in the world perhaps?

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Quote: Starbug "You said the Crusaders ( not Celtic ) played in 2009 ,make your mind up?'"

its at the top of this page you silly banana. You even quoted it icon_lol.gif

is this where we see you pretend to get confused again?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "The points are reset to 0. You can sort them at that point in to any order you want its not going to make a difference. Those 8 clubs then restart a new league.'"


Lol I mean the 22 games are not irrelevant, they sort out the positions in the league.

Quote: SmokeyTA "www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/match/rl3619046'"


Yet still better than many SL teams did against them last season

Quote: SmokeyTA "you can put lipstick on a pig, its still a pig. You can call Fev's squad full-time if you want. But that isnt a professional squad. '"


Getting paid full time to do a job is professional


Quote: SmokeyTA "Why? why does giving Fev an opportunity to be one of the worst sides in SL supersede the growth and stability of the game as a whole?'"


speculating again, you forgot to put "in your bias opinion"

Whywould Fev being in SL not help the growth of the game - go on real of another load of bull from your mind and speculation. look into your crystal ball you have and tell me our attendance would be crap because were from a hamlet. That we would end up skint and that players such as Hardaker, Burrows and briscoe still wouldn't play for us.

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Teams in the first and third tiers of the eight-club format will carry their points over from the first 23 rounds but the middle-tier teams will start from scratch.

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