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Quote: Starbug "Do the maths, it doesnt work'"


It doesnt work for each team to have a round where instead of playing salford they play nobody?

Seems to work elsewhere!

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Quote: Chris Dalton "It doesnt work for each team to have a round where instead of playing salford they play nobody?

Seems to work elsewhere!'"

Not in this context it doesn't.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Chris Dalton "It doesnt work for each team to have a round where instead of playing salford they play nobody?

Seems to work elsewhere!'"


No it doesnt, odd number of teams and odd number of games doesnt work, do the maths

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



10 minutes Chris, have you sussed the flaw in your cunning plan yet?

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Quote: Kosh "And then they took it all back again, which helped precipitate Bradford going into Admin.

For clarity, I want the RFL to do as much to help Salford as they did Bradford. Just not necessarily exactly the same things as the two situations are somewhat different.'"


No they didn’t.

After the initial loan, which Bradford failed to pay back a penny piece, they then gave them some more cash & took the lease off Bradford’s hands.

The biggest conundrum is why are Bradford receiving less Sky monies for the next two years?

I would hazard a guess that in two years time Bradford will hold the lease once again & the other clubs have received a bonus payment for their complicity.

You’re right, the two situations are very different, Bradford had a tangible asset to bargain with, and Salford have got sod all.

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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "No they didn’t.

After the initial loan, which Bradford failed to pay back a penny piece, they then gave them some more cash & took the lease off Bradford’s hands.'"

Bradford's then owners were quoted as saying that the RFL had basically taken back the cash they'd been given for the lease, as repayment for the loan they never paid back. I don't have full details but it sounds like one at least of the sums advanced was taken away prior to administration.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "The biggest conundrum is why are Bradford receiving less Sky monies for the next two years?'"

Isn't this repayment for the SL monies advanced to pay wages?

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "I would hazard a guess that in two years time Bradford will hold the lease once again & the other clubs have received a bonus payment for their complicity.'"

I guess we'll see, but I don't think that's what the deduction of Sky monies is for.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "You’re right, the two situations are very different, Bradford had a tangible asset to bargain with, and Salford have got sod all.'"

We're also at two different parts of the season.

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Quote: Kosh "Bradford's then owners were quoted as saying that the RFL had basically taken back the cash they'd been given for the lease, as repayment for the loan they never paid back. I don't have full details but it sounds like one at least of the sums advanced was taken away prior to administration.'"


The RFL lent Bradford a substantial amount of cash in the off-season on the quiet. When they realised no repayments were been made they then came out with the legendary statement about saving the “Iconic” stadium from charlatans, by stumping up some more cash and taking over the lease.


Quote: Kosh "Isn't this repayment for the SL monies advanced to pay wages?'"


Nobody knows the truth, however, the amount being withheld from Bradford equates to the amount it cost the RFL to purchase it – I’ll draw my own conclusions.

Quote: Kosh "I guess we'll see, but I don't think that's what the deduction of Sky monies is for.'"


Allegedly, the rest of the clubs are in receipt of extra Sky monies, which also equates to the amount being withheld from Bradford, it’s funny how all the clubs went along with the RFL’s grand plan back in the summer, without the prospect of a sweetener.


Quote: Kosh "We're also at two different parts of the season.'"


I appreciate that, however, we are in the middle of a licensing period, the connotations of removing one club from the competition even before that season begins is a logistical nightmare.

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Quote: Wildmoose "www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/west-coast-pirates-may-play-in-english-league-20121110-294vr.html

Salford City Pirates?'"


Lol, maybe Holdsworth will return given he is a Perth lad.

I think we might struggle to convince our lads to leave the sunniest city in the world to play in one of the glummiest!

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Quote: Starbug "Do the maths, it doesnt work'"


How many times are you going to have to battle with this conundrum? They should pose this as a GCSE question.

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Quote: littlerich "How many times are you going to have to battle with this conundrum? They should pose this as a GCSE question.'"


Got to say I was surprised that ' Dalton ' didnt check first icon_biggrin.gif , Id have expected more from him

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Quote: Starbug "10 minutes Chris, have you sussed the flaw in your cunning plan yet?'"

This has added some amusement to an otherwise mundane evening! icon_lol.gif

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I merely posed a problem which we could very still encounter and some bitter "I don't care about this or that I just spend my life on here" fool took me off on a largely irrelevant points tangeant and got me worked up.

You can all score your petty victory if you want, fact remains that if Salford can't start the season we will have this problem. It's hardly my fault the RFL introduced this ludicrously unfair system of one extra game for points which is largely dependent on the opponents you get. I forgot they had been so stupid. Whoopee.

Potential problem: Salford don't start the season.

Meaning: We need a bye round. We will also have an odd team (mine) at Magic Weekend with no fixture and a disadvantage.

I offered a potential solution. Any others? No?

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