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Quote: Fingerposts Finest "gary wheeler is by far the best young prospect in the game at present, arguably the best stand off any club have had since tony myler.......'"


Who are you? 7,000 posts and I've never seen you post on the Saints board? Name change I guess?

If Wheeler is so good, why isn't he playing first team rugby?

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Quote: Saddened! "Who are you? 7,000 posts and I've never seen you post on the Saints board? Name change I guess?

If Wheeler is so good, why isn't he playing first team rugby?'"



firstly you don't see me post on the saints board because old chap i support widnes, icon_beat.gif

secondly, wheeler has played several first team games this season with quite a good try scoring record to boot. he would certainly have played more but for injuries.............

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Quote: saints35 bulls0 "do we need workhorses in the England/GB team?

sure, we need someone who can and will make a lot of tackles, but we need someone to actually create gaps and make breaks.

I really like Clough, he is a very good Super League player and will have a great club career ahead of him - but has he actually broken a tackle this year?'"
Yes, we do. I think we forget that with our back rows.

Something that struck me about the Aussie in the world cup, was how well the back rows helped ease the workload on the props.

You've got to win the grind before you worry about the fancy stuff. You should have 3 solid backrow and 1 impact in your 17 imo.

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Quote: saints35 bulls0 "do we need workhorses in the England/GB team?'"


Yes, otherwise these people

Quote: saints35 bulls0 "sure, we need someone who can and will make a lot of tackles, but we need someone to actually create gaps and make breaks.'"


don't get a look in.

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]I really like Clough, he is a very good Super League player and will have a great club career ahead of him - but has he actually broken a tackle this year?'"]

I'd pick him above Wilkin at International level. He's also only in his second full season at SL level, I'd expect him to kick on and improve his all round game as he becomes more experienced. The fact that he's already better than a lot of SL second rowers, even without that experience stands him in good stead IMO.

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Quote: Big Graeme "I think he'll make a damn fine second row.'"
I hope that's not just because he's big. If he's got the skills for centre, he should stay out wide. If he hasn't, maybe he should work on them.

I think we're too eager to push big lads into the pack.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "I hope that's not just because he's big. If he's got the skills for centre, he should stay out wide. If he hasn't, maybe he should work on them.

I think we're too eager to push big lads into the pack.'"


I think that is where he'll end up he's big, fast, great ball skills, hates taking a backward step and isn't scared to take the ball up.

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Quote: Eurob0y "The only second rower in SL I would have over Paul Clough is Gareth Hock.'"


I'm guessing your only talking about English SRs with that statement?.

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Quote: moxi1 "I'm guessing your only talking about English SRs with that statement?.'"


Perhaps somewhat surprisingly, not everyone wants to sign every Hull KR player.

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Quote: Big Graeme "I think that is where he'll end up he's big, fast, great ball skills, hates taking a backward step and isn't scared to take the ball up.'"

Sounds like an international centre to me

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Quote: Billinge_Lump "Perhaps somewhat surprisingly, not everyone wants to sign every Hull KR player.'"


So your saying you'd have him over Puletua(s?) who is a St Helens Player, I wont mention Ben Galea for us because it's a pointless argument with a pointless person.

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Quote: moxi1 "So your saying you'd have him over Puletua(s?) who is a St Helens Player, I wont mention Ben Galea for us because it's a pointless argument with a pointless person.'"


Do HKR fans self importance know no bounds?

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Quote: Chieftain McBeefton " Watkins looks the same as well - how do leeds fans rate his performances this year?
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Watkins is a talent for sure but this season he has struggled somewhat. He's tried a little too hard and made some errors. He's also been hampered by having to play in the right centre which is not his natural opsition. He will be Senior's replacement for Leeds in due course (and hopefully England).

But so far this season its' all looked a bit of a struggle for him overall with a few touches of genius. They're handling him with kid gloves at Headingley and are probably doing the right thing.

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Quote: Fingerposts Finest "firstly you don't see me post on the saints board because old chap i support widnes,
My appologies, what with you being Fingerpost's finest and Fingerpost being in St Helens and you talking of a young St Helens player who hasn't shown much at senior level I assumed you were a Saints fan who watched the academy on a regular basis.

So, I'll change my question, how does a Widnes fan come to the conclusion that Wheeler is the best stand off since Tony Myler?

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