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| Quote ryano="ryano"I work with one! They've never got over '68!'"
I know that it's difficult sometimes but, do try and keep up 
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| Quote ryano="ryano"Seems fair to me!'"
There already is a tiered system and all the clubs agreed to it being implemented, that why Leeds infringment resulted in a fine. You may not like it, but the super league clubs who know more about the complexity of the cap all think thats a fair outcome for a minor first time infringement.
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| Quote rubber duckie="rubber duckie"Don't bring Wire into this....stick to all the cheats.'"
Who else as broken the salary cap...
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| Quote Barbed Wire="Barbed Wire"The problem is accountability. The two people who have declared the ‘oversight’ should be sanctioned for misconduct and/or mismanagement.'"
Who should issue that sanction?
Certified accountants have a professional body to oversee their compliance with appropriate financial conduct rules and regulations - although as an aside, that never seems to stop PWC, E&Y, DeLoitte etc producing shonky accounts that say whatever you need them to, providing you have enough cash to pay for their silence; nonetheless, the RFL would not be in a position to sanction an accountant or FD or whomever was 'responsible' for inputting the numbers. It would be wildly unfair and totally inappropriate.
The sanction must be on the club - and where it hurts - right in the SL points; a 10k fine for multiple breaches of the cap is a joke - and is no disincentive whatsoever. One could even argue that if your club had a chance to secure SL status by breaching the cap at risk of only a 10k fine, and they didn't do so, the CEO would be guilty of dereliction of duty.
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Club Coach | 4526 | Bradford Bulls |
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| RU seem to have a better system. Saracens have just been fined £5.3 mill and docked 35 points.
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| Quote rugbyreddog="rugbyreddog"RU seem to have a better system. Saracens have just been fined £5.3 mill and docked 35 points.'"
And points deduction can only be applied in the current season
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| Quote rugbyreddog="rugbyreddog"RU seem to have a better system. Saracens have just been fined £5.3 mill and docked 35 points.'"
After failing to disclose payments to players in 16-17, 17-18 and 18-19.
Big difference.
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| The current superleague champions will be playing Toronto at saracens ground next season
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| Quote rugbyreddog="rugbyreddog"RU seem to have a better system. Saracens have just been fined £5.3 mill and docked 35 points.'"
For a far, far bigger offence.
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| Quote Him="Him"For a far, far bigger offence.'"
Cap Breach = Cap Breach.
I think the point is that Union patently have a determination to inflict real hardship, no matter who breaks the cap, whilst we just pussyfoot around. Imagine if leeds had been docked 35 points...they'd be relegated and need to come back up, but until we grow a set, the likes of Leeds and Wigan will break the rules thinking they are bigger than the game, which they probably are if we are honest.
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| Quote Him="Him"For a far, far bigger offence.'"
It was but a salary cap breach should never result in just a fine, it doesn't make sense. Even a £1 breach should be points deduction of some sort otherwise it juts becomes a financial decision to go over.
A club wants to spend 50k over the cap knowing it will only receive a 50k fine, if they can afford 100k it then why not.
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| Quote barham red="barham red"It was but a salary cap breach should never result in just a fine, it doesn't make sense. Even a £1 breach should be points deduction of some sort otherwise it juts becomes a financial decision to go over.
A club wants to spend 50k over the cap knowing it will only receive a 50k fine, if they can afford 100k it then why not.'"
All theoretical, wilfully going over the cap by £50k will make little or no difference to the team. Hiding player benefits to pool top talent who ordinarily would not fit under the cap for a few season is a completely different matter. I think it's about right as we have it,maybe a slight tweak where by if it's under an agreed amount you get an equivalent fine and it is deducted off next years total.
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