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Congrats to Toronto. They've done their part, now it's a case of seeing how other results fall for them. But I think they'll still go up via the MPG against London if that's what it comes to.

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I’ve watched Toronto numerous times and found them to be genuinely awful. Just another Legh from a few years ago under Rowley; clearly the best collection of players in the Championship, should easily get promoted [and didn’t in Leigh’s case, it was getting rid of Rowley that saw them promoted and I thought the same would happen to Toronto].

Toronto have loooed exactly the same for me all season. Just another boring Rowley side, more interested in bullying the opposition than playing decent rugby. But you can’t do that against SL teams. Wire showed Rowley up for this twice in the Challenge Cup, once with Leigh and once with Toronto.

Until last night... that’s the first time Toronto have looked a decent side in my eyes. Okay Leeds are poor, but Toronto looked every part a bottom four side in Super League. Fair play.

I can still actually see Hull KR giving Widnes a good hiding and London the same to Halifax, the Million Pound Game will then be Toronto v London in Toronto.

But for the first time I see there may be something about Toronto.

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Quote: Budgiezilla "They brought 2 fans.....WELL DONE THE RFL ! Any more bright ideas....?

You really should drop the fans business it is old boring and incorrect.

Fans are only important for one thing making a ground look full so it gives some TV impact when the cameras are there.

If a club has 10 fans but a £5 million pound deal for sponsorship and they let everyone in for nothing that it is 10 tomes better than a club having a £100k sponsorship deal and 3000 fans for 11 games.

Do the maths.


Money in sport is about TV deals and sponsorship paying fans are fairly unimportant.

Have you heard of RU or cricket it is all about TV deals and selling little electronic boxes that sit under televisions


They may not have levetricity or broadband where you come from but it is the future

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Quote: leedsnsouths "I genuinely don't think their were any 'fans' who travelled from Canada, there were maybe 50 people cheering Toronto but I would bet they were a mix of Canadians who live in Leeds and had no idea what was going, and people from West Yorkshire who don't like Leeds and came to see the game out of curiosity.

I don't think the problem with Toronto is their away support, the problem is that it is another waste of time gamble by the rfl that will go nowhere and distract from actual real ways the sport can grow, just like a Paris team or a test in Denver.'"



Sone truth in that the games has lost its sparkle.

Too much 5 drives and a kick. The only strategies teams have for winning games is. a/. Slow the game down,

B / milk penalties by throwing yourself to the ground rolling around and trying to con the ref and then getting another set.

The games needs to do something radical to make it faster and more interesting the way it did when it went from 15 to 13 players, 4 for a try and 1 for a DG or get rid of ridiculous scrums.

Maybe time to go to 12 a side to allow for more attacking plays ?

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Quote: Gallanteer "Can't trust Leeds to get anything right but Hicks was ridiculously biased and took the vid ref to overturn 2 bad decisions that favoured Toronto.

If we can't beat Widnes by 14 or more than we deserve to be in the MPG away at London. That stated, I can see it now, 14 up and the ref manufactures a penalty under the sticks for Widnes so Toronto get promoted. The RFL obviously want Toronto in SL and they can't hide it.

Ultimately though, this Leeds side as an SL team are an absolute joke - everyone but Leeds fans and the RFL can see it. If Salford had beaten them last week (a manufactured Hastings ban 2 weeks before and the penalty in the game) and they would already be in the MPG. The way the RFL are manipulating refs is really starting to put me off the entire sport.'"


Most fans on here (including me) reckon that the senior RFL management is incompetent. How could such incompetents engineer the sort of conspiracy you're implying? The same outfit that can cock-up the parachute payment implications can also dictate in advance refereeing decisions, red cards, last minute penalties and diciplinary committee bans?

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You would think if the Canadians go up they will bring in a smarter coach to manage the high profile players they will know doubt bring in. Rowley has just about done his job

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Rowley had done a cracking job.

The players he's had to work with aren't exactly a special talented bunch.

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Quote: Huddersfield1895 "OK Leeds are safe, but still a terrible result for them'"


Could be a godd result in the long run, it proved that big changes are needed

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Quote: Parkside Freddie "Rowley had done a cracking job.

The players he's had to work with aren't exactly a special talented bunch.'"

The teams he’s had to play against haven’t been exactly talented either if Toronto do get in SL I don’t think Rowley will last very long

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Quote: Durham Giant "You really should drop the fans business it is old boring and incorrect.

Fans are only important for one thing making a ground look full so it gives some TV impact when the cameras are there.

If a club has 10 fans but a £5 million pound deal for sponsorship and they let everyone in for nothing that it is 10 tomes better than a club having a £100k sponsorship deal and 3000 fans for 11 games.

Do the maths.

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