The coke as a social issue can be argued over elsewhere because flagging it up on non match day sample brings up privacy issues and such.

Testing positive on a match day sample is cheating as its a stimulant and so a performance enhancer (as are industrial quantities of caffeine BTW - far more than a few cuppas worth). That's why its on the WADA list. Chase and Walker are grade A idiots for being caught as they were and deserve everything that gets thrown at them. First weekend of the play offs and these 2 clowns are hogging the headlines and the expense of some decent performances.

Me and you are of a very similar age, and no doubt went out to the same places in our youth (Shire, Cheese, Bass House, Oasis, Henry's, LA's etc). I remember the rave scene coming on, as you say, an increased number were taking something or other.

Its not a situation of if someone has taken drugs once or even a few times. To suggest its rife suggested it was happening more often than not by 18-40 year old males.

We probably all know people who either do or have taken drugs, but I think there is an over egging of the cake on this.

Anyway, we, or even I have derailed this thread on player welfare. I do apologies, it must be time for my fix

I'm glad somebody said it. It's rife at NCL level and all levels of the game. Again I've seen it first hand at clubs I have played at and I've seen the effects it can have on players. The pre-workout is also as you say used very often, although I see this more at higher level amateur than the level I am currently playing at. Can't comment on the steroid usage as I just don't know but I remember playing away a couple of years back at a team in Lancashire area with a big rugby culture and one of their lads clearly had been on some for of steroid and ended up having roid-rage on the pitch causing a fight over nothing with our prop.

I'd say it would be more like 18-30 age group as after then I think you stop going to nightclubs or be around that scene ,by the way I never set foot in Henry's we had our own dives this side of the bridge

Totally clueless and inept post with no understanding of the issue or what I said. 0/10.
Caffeine at certain levels is a flag in drugs testing, if you don't know why go bother yourself to do some research. However it's great that you are comparing it with cocaain, as it highlights your inability to make any sense.
And even better you make a comparison regarding something clubs/RFL/UKAD have no control over and is out of their remit to control. But according to you a player having a KODI box is the same/comparable to taking cocaine/amphet or having high levels of caffiene even, just lol! Well done on making an ass of yourself!

In the past I have taken Cocaine to my shame. While it does appear to give you extra energy I couldn't imagine trying to play rugby at professional level while on it. When you take it just on a recreational level it increases your heart rate to uncomfortable levels. I can imagine taking it while playing Rugby League at the highest level would cause massive exertion on your heart. If you were to take it the night before a game it would probably be a hindrance, imagine the worst hangover you've had multiplied by ten.

I take it, you have never visited the UKAD site?

I've updated the thread title and added the Adam Walker story to the original post as he's now been found to have tested positive for cocaine as well

I'm telling you now this stuff is rife in the game,,
Iv seen guys at NCL clubs taking it when they even have there kids with them.
It's society these days that just seem to think it's the norm to do a bit of coke..
It can put serious strain on the heart and I think the rise in young men having heart problems when playing could be due to this

Faux-indignation is not a substitute for cogency. You have fooled no-one.

Won't somebody please think of the children?

When they announce the dream team at the end of the season , there will be users in that 13. It needs to stop.

Well said but how do you stop it