FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Wakefield Council - Just incompetence ?
70 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1347No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2022May 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Smew "Correct - a 17m high unit would have made a significant contribution to the community facilities being developed. However, a 42m high unit, visible from space, was allowed to not contribute by keeping it quiet until it was too late to object.'"


" A meeting with the Trust Chair (Sir Rodney), myself and Andy Wallhead ( Corporate Director. Regeneration & Economic Growth) was held at that time and it was discussed that there would be no linkage with the Newcold development. I can also confirm that no objections to the planning application were subsequently received from the Trust or its members."

JOANNE RONEY OBE

CHIEF EXECUTIVE

Wakefield Council

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3829
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bigalf "" A meeting with the Trust Chair (Sir Rodney), myself and Andy Wallhead ( Corporate Director. Regeneration & Economic Growth) was held at that time and it was discussed that there would be no linkage with the Newcold development. I can also confirm that no objections to the planning application were subsequently received from the Trust or its members."

JOANNE RONEY OBE

CHIEF EXECUTIVE

Wakefield Council'"



Yes, but it also states a bit you failed to include, for whatever reason.

" I can confirm that there was no Section 106 Agreement to link this development with the funding of a community stadium as the size of development (22,300sqm) is below the 60,000sqm threshold for contributing toward the stadium that was set out in the original outline application issued by the Secretary of State. "

I was under the impression that the 60,000sqm was the trigger point, I didn't realise that only units above 60,000sqm counted towards the stadium icon_confused.gif .

RankPostsTeam
International Star5080
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Yes, but it also states a bit you failed to include, for whatever reason.

" I can confirm that there was no Section 106 Agreement to link this development with the funding of a community stadium as the size of development (22,300sqm) is below the 60,000sqm threshold for contributing toward the stadium that was set out in the original outline application issued by the Secretary of State. "

I was under the impression that the 60,000sqm was the trigger point, I didn't realise that only units above 60,000sqm counted towards the stadium

Because it doesn't, if YCP built a 1m X 1m box and leased it out then it would count towards the 60,000m2 trigger.

The Council officers reply is misleading either because they're too incompetant to understand the S106 or they're intentionally lying.

There is a ruling in the Secretary of States Public Inquiry report which specifically disallows the aggregation of the land in question.

The WMDC have incorrectly allowed the Newcold planning application to be passed directly contravening the Secretary of States order. Why they've done this is up for conjecture, either they're incompetant or they knowingly shafted the Community and the Stadium Trust.

It stinks and they're now wriggling and spinning trying to get themselves off the hook

RankPostsTeam
International Star200No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024May 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bigalf "" A meeting with the Trust Chair (Sir Rodney), myself and Andy Wallhead ( Corporate Director. Regeneration & Economic Growth) was held at that time and it was discussed that there would be no linkage with the Newcold development. I can also confirm that no objections to the planning application were subsequently received from the Trust or its members."

JOANNE RONEY OBE

CHIEF EXECUTIVE

Wakefield Council'"


If that is the case then produce some minutes or documentation to prove this. Do you honestly think if people had been aware of this they would not have kicked up a stink. Also how were the local public, you know the residents and Wakefield inhabitants informed of this decision to exclude from the S106? Do they not matter too?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4961
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Feb 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



If any of the RL family fancy helping out in getting the community stadium delivered, please go to our Facebook page - fightfornewmarket and like.

For the twiteratti out there please look for #fightfornewmarket and throw a few retweets and favourites around!

We are not asking the council for a stadium, just for them to enforce their own planning regulations on a developer who is trying to wriggle out of their responsibilities and agreements.

Thanks!

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman9721
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Avenger "The jokes on you fella because that's become an urban myth that only the ill informed and foolish still trot out.


Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Rugby League Club used the stadium for their first game in the Super League in 1998.

Wasn't this because to "prove" they were SL material they had to play at a better ground with better facilities so they chose Oakwell, but somehow managed to get round having to playing there again.

Oh yes a true "urban myth" but one based on reality.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12504
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Leaguefan "Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Rugby League Club used the stadium for their first game in the Super League in 1998.

Wasn't this because to "prove" they were SL material they had to play at a better ground with better facilities so they chose Oakwell, but somehow managed to get round having to playing there again.

Oh yes a true "urban myth" but one based on reality.'"


Reality?

Link to the above?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach13807
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Leaguefan "Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Rugby League Club used the stadium for their first game in the Super League in 1998.

Wasn't this because to "prove" they were SL material they had to play at a better ground with better facilities so they chose Oakwell, but somehow managed to get round having to playing there again.

Oh yes a true "urban myth" but one based on reality.'"

No they didn't. First home game was against Salford at BV. First Sky home game was at Oakwell. Jog on fella.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5123
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Wildthing "Reality?

Link to the above?'"



"With Newmarket being delayed, we wanted to make sure we have covered every eventuality,"[i said Elston, whose club have a five-year option in place to share Oakwell.[/i

"We would prefer to stay where we are but, at the end of the day, we will do whatever we need to stay in Super League and, if the Rugby League say they would rather us play at Barnsley, then that's what we'll do."

RankPostsTeam
International Star5080
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Tigerade "www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12208/6973038/wakefield-still-set-on-move

[iPlans for a purpose-built stadium in Newmarket have been referred to a public enquiry but the Wildcats could still opt for a groundshare with Barnsley at Oakwell if it improves their chances of getting a licence.[/i

"With Newmarket being delayed, we wanted to make sure we have covered every eventuality,"[i said Elston, whose club have a five-year option in place to share Oakwell.[/i

"We would prefer to stay where we are but, at the end of the day, we will do whatever we need to stay in Super League and, if the Rugby League say they would rather us play at Barnsley, then that's what we'll do."'"


and . . .

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12504
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Tigerade "www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/news/12208/6973038/wakefield-still-set-on-move

[iPlans for a purpose-built stadium in Newmarket have been referred to a public enquiry but the Wildcats could still opt for a groundshare with Barnsley at Oakwell if it improves their chances of getting a licence.[/i

"With Newmarket being delayed, we wanted to make sure we have covered every eventuality,"[i said Elston, whose club have a five-year option in place to share Oakwell.[/i

"We would prefer to stay where we are but, at the end of the day, we will do whatever we need to stay in Super League and, if the Rugby League say they would rather us play at Barnsley, then that's what we'll do."'"


Where in that link does it state we played our first SL game at Oakwell?
Nope, its still not there.
We weren't even in SL in 1998, as stated by leaguefan.

Troll fail again, by Tigerade.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5123
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



I thought the bit you were trying to debunk was this bit:-
"Wasn't this because to prove they were SL material they had to play at a better ground with better facilities so they chose Oakwell"
I didn't realise you were only on about this bit:-
"Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Rugby League Club used the stadium for their first game in the Super League in 1998."

Chill man. chillpill.gif

RankPostsTeam
Moderator12504
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Tigerade "I thought the bit you were trying to debunk was this bit:-
"Wasn't this because to prove they were SL material they had to play at a better ground with better facilities so they chose Oakwell"
I didn't realise you were only on about this bit:-
"Wakefield Trinity Wildcats Rugby League Club used the stadium for their first game in the Super League in 1998."

Chill man.
Exactly. Apology accepted.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5080
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Tigerade "I thought '"



there was your mistake, it all went downhill after that!

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman1470
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 1970Jun 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Well if Wakey get their new stadium, then what are people gonna moan about when its Wakey away day? curtain.gif

70 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
70 posts in 6 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


7.7978515625:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Game - Song Titles
Wanderer
40791
Recent
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63259
Recent
Film game
Wanderer
5734
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
11s
Shopping list for 2025
hull2524
5586
16s
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
27s
BORED The Band Name Game
Wanderer
63259
30s
Rumours and signings v9
[Gareth]
28897
1m
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
Another Cas
16
1m
Ground Improvements
Trojan Horse
188
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
2m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
2m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
508
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
karetaker
52
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1040
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
636
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1363
England's Women Demolish The W..
1193
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1430
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1211
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1473
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2011
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2221
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2461
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2025
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2268
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2734
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2157
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2234