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Quote: Conroy "Looking at the Irish defence and lack of idea in attack last night, England could pick any side they want and still get 50+

What is the record International score? I think Ireland could break it twice.'"



need to go some to beat the 110 - 4 score rattled up by the Kangaroos against Russia for a world cup match at Hull in 2000....i was there.

There was a game where france rattled some 120 -0 points against serbia and montenegro in a comp. in Lebanon in 2003

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I think England's highest score was against France in 1994ish, wasn't it?

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Bottom line is that Widdop has to be one of the starting halves and plays 80 minutes.

Second issue is the need to discipline Sam Burgess and Ben Westwood, who are penalty machines.

Finally O'Loughlin needs to be in the team.

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Quote: pie.warrior "need to go some to beat the 110 - 4 score rattled up by the Kangaroos against Russia for a world cup match at Hull in 2000....i was there.

There was a game where france rattled some 120 -0 points against serbia and montenegro in a comp. in Lebanon in 2003'"


Probably won't beat that Aussie scoreline no. They could do though icon_lol.gif

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I''d play some of the guys that didn't play just to get some game time

I'd play Tom Burgess again as he needs to get used to the level now that he has been thrown in.
Still need to play Ferris as he earned his stripes and deserves to keep going.

I'd play Widdup with Sinfield and have Burrow on Bench as interchange.
Graham to play assuming he doesn't go on the drink again.

Mossop I think I'd lose as he is not inexperienced so doesn't need gametime but was the poorer performer
Think I'd start with George rather than bring both twins on as interchange.
or keep Graham on for longer and switch the other prop.

Rest of backs the same. They need to play together to find their attacking side

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Widdop for Chase, Graham for Mossop, O'Loughlin for Sam Burgess.

Keep changes to a minimum, try and build some confidence in combinations. Not a fan of this "giving everyone a game" approach in major tournaments.

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Amazing, after the Italy loss everyone wanted cudjoe out, now hes in everyones team icon_lol.gif

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Quote: brearley84 "Amazing, after the Italy loss everyone wanted cudjoe out, now hes in everyones team
He played well on Saturday, but apart from moving a non-specialist like Ablett or Hardaker there, we've only got 2 centres in the squad!

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Expect all the players that missed out on Saturday to get a run. Be a full strength side vs Fiji.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Widdop for Chase, Graham for Mossop, O'Loughlin for Sam Burgess.

Keep changes to a minimum, try and build some confidence in combinations. Not a fan of this "giving everyone a game" approach in major tournaments.'"


Spot-on, both in team changes and attitude.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Widdop for Chase, Graham for Mossop, O'Loughlin for Sam Burgess.

Keep changes to a minimum, try and build some confidence in combinations. Not a fan of this "giving everyone a game" approach in major tournaments.'"



Surely better to keep everyone with a semblance of match fitness throughout the competition at all times. If someone, say Briscoe, doesn't play in the groups, then Ryan Hall gets injured before the final and he has to come in, he wont have played for over 2 months. Better to rotate IMO.

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Bottom line is SM isn't going to change Sinfield + Chase.

If he plans on using them in the QFs and beyond he should play them in the next two games and make a call on Widdop either way. He's wasted from the bench, much rather have Burrow or McIlorm on the bench.

Sticking with the same half backs at least will allow them hopefully to get some confidence and create chances for the backline, which also shouldn't be changed.

Hill
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Westwood

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IMO we can't be messing about with combinations. Strongest team always, unless injury or fitness is an issue.

Fijians will really try to give it to us in Hull as well - we'll need a strong, steely pack to put up with them.

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Quote: EHW "Surely better to keep everyone with a semblance of match fitness throughout the competition at all times. If someone, say Briscoe, doesn't play in the groups, then Ryan Hall gets injured before the final and he has to come in, he wont have played for over 2 months. Better to rotate IMO.'"

Bit of catch 22 situation this. Do you play the same team for the (hoped for) continuity you don’t get from players from different teams or do you keep the match fitness up

Personally I would keep the play makers together and that means the 1, 6, 7, 9 spine you want to link together. We don’t have the centres to switch too much

Rotating the forwards and potentially the wingers is an option

Personally, I would take the benefit of the increased continuity of the whole team over the risk of a player coming into the team later with a little less match fitness

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "He played well on Saturday, but apart from moving a non-specialist like Ablett or Hardaker there, we've only got 2 centres in the squad!'"


didnt stop people wanting him out after the Italy game. Quality player is cudjoe and will only get better.

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