No, that's not what I'm saying, the fact that there was a team in the league who's only realistic goal was to avoid being the worst team (and even that was a massive ask) is wrong. But as you said, I don't really have an issue with a newly promoted team chanting about staying up because that was their only real hope, and for them staying up was an achievement because of the massive odds stacked against them. For any other team to celebrate narrowly avoiding relegation is nonsense, I remember hearing Wigan fans chanting in 2006(?) which was just stupid.

Every team should hope to make progress in every season. If you win promotion one year and stay up the next then that's a higher finish than the previous season. I can't see why progress shouldn't be celebrated.

As a fan of a team that has both stayed up on the last day and also been relegated, I can say that staying up was a HUGE achievement and well worth celebrating especially when after relegation we were down for a few years and also almost stopped existing.

If you were a proper fan you'd know this.

The only chants which bother me are ones which have an overly aggressive element. Often started as sectarian chants at sporting events I'd rather not attend.

We've all heard them, and I groan when our lot starts one up. I've no desire to shoot anyone and rugby league fans are a good bunch in general so I wouldn't describe any set of fans as scum. There is playful rivalry which drives the sport and then there is a plain bad taste bad example.

Chants? are there any good ones?
Could not imagine Chanting anything to be honest.

How boring of you.

Of course, I get it now Headhunter. Without relegation no team can finish bottom! And we ALL get to celebrate at the end of the season. Well, those of us that go and understand what's going on. What rot

You should watch the Harlem Globetrotters and whip yourself into a frenzy over a true pointless exhibition team!

"we're leeeeeeeds rhi-nos, we're leeeeeeeds rhi-nos" sung soooooo slowly it near on sends me to sleep!

Why would I want to Chant anything?
It suggests mindless people.

i like the oldies

you're going home in a saint johns ambulance was always a a fav along with
"we paid for your hats, we paid for your haaaaaaaats, what a waste of council tax we paid for your hats" sang at numerous police around grounds

Any that involve a band
Any that either Hull side sing about each other when playing away at a team that isnt the other Hull side

And that damn god awful 'Bully, Bully' song. Or is it, 'Boolay Boolay'.

And ANY TRY MUSIC.

Not a chant, but the big-hand-clap that some fans do after a try is extremely irritating.

Not a chant, but the big-hand-clap that some fans do after a try is extremely irritating.