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| Quote: FFA "There are so many mediocre clubs which don't contribute to the national side
You haven't thought this through really.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "It's been an eye opener seeing the development of our U18's SG Ball team in Perth that plays in the Sydney SG Ball comp. These kids train 4 times a week and then have to travel the equivalent of a yorkshire team playing in Moscow every other week. Many of them are still at school. The professionalism and training regime they undergo at 16&17 is amazing. The budget for our one U18's team is in the region of 300,000 pounds!
When I compare that to the U18's team I played in when I was a kid in Hull the whole situation is worlds apart.'"
How many times do the current u18's train in sl?
Th ebudgets that high because the perth reds are trying to prove their fit for the NRL, how much are other u18's side budgeting for?
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| Quote: Sheldon "How many times do the current u18's train in sl?
Th ebudgets that high because the perth reds are trying to prove their fit for the NRL, how much are other u18's side budgeting for?'"
$300,000 is a massive amount of money. But when you consider that NRL clubs actually fly in players interstate to train on a Friday evening, then play on a Saturday before getting flown back, you can see how they treat what is considered the better of the players in Oz. Other clubs in the NSW SG Ball (u18s) comp are not in the NRL, like Norths, Central Coast, Western Sydney, WA Reds, Illawarra, Balmain, Wests.
It's no surprise that the ones in bold finished in the bottom 4.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "There's only 18 places up for grabs in the national side, how do you expect every team to contribute? Look back through history and see what Wakey, HKR, Widnes contributed to the GB sides in years gone by and stop making stupid statements. The more clubs
We will not increase the intensity at the top level by watering down the benchmark for earning a spot. Producing star RL players is not like Cinderella's glass slipper where if we throw enough players into the mix it will increase the opportunity of unearthing a star. There is logic to that reason but it is not strong enough in the face of a competition that couldn't produce enough players to fill twelve teams never mind fourteen. We can wait until it does if people like but more places for players does not automatically equate to a better quality product especially when you don't have the resources to fill it.
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| Quote: Sheldon "You haven't thought this through really.'"
My thoughts presactly.
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| Quote: Saddened! "Because as Daniel Anderson pointed out when mocking the mess SL has become since he left, there isn't the player pool to support 14 teams. In England the players playing the game at junior level are generally terrible athletes. They are the runts of society, the sons of council house dwellers. So the 'average' SL young player is a sparrow legged runt with average ability. Each club probably produces 3 or 4 reasonable players every 5 years.
They should cut SL to 10 teams.'"
Think Daniel Anderson was referring to RL in general, not just St Helens.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "People hark back to the 90's as when we where nearly good enough. That was mainly down to RU imports. Maybe the answer lies in the RFL signing up the 10 best Union backs from the home nations like we did in the 90's? Davies, Tait, Gibbs, Devereaux, Offiah to name a few.
Other reality is the funding into the game in Australia since that time has gone up massively whilst in the UK it hasn't.
Hanley should count himself lucky he was playing at a time when everything was in GB's favour and he could at least lose by just a few!'"
Hanley, Schofield, Kevin Ward, Lee Crooks, Shaun Edwards, Steve Hampson, Chris Bibb, Deryck Fox, Lee Jackson, Kelvin Skerrett, plus Paul Newlove and Gary Conolly (talking of centres) all great players not one an RU import. (I could name more)
What do these players have in common apart from being great players? They all had spells in Australia.
That is the way forward. Plus competitive games. There are too many easy games. Because we don't have P&R. Bring it back, it'll settle down again and the lower clubs will bridge the gap in class.
WE lost the series to Australia in 1990 on the back of one bad ref's decsion at Old Trafford. If that decision (obstruction on Gibson) had gone our way we'd have won the game and the series - that's how clsoe we were. Close in 1992, inj Oz and in the World Cup final same year. Same in 1995.
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| The answer is simple
Make Garry Scholfield the RL Supremo
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| Quote: major hound "Hanley, Schofield, Kevin Ward, Lee Crooks, Shaun Edwards, Steve Hampson, Chris Bibb, Deryck Fox, Lee Jackson, Kelvin Skerrett, plus Paul Newlove and Gary Conolly (talking of centres) all great players not one an RU import. (I could name more)
What do these players have in common apart from being great players? They all had spells in Australia.
That is the way forward. Plus competitive games. There are too many easy games. Because we don't have P&R. Bring it back, it'll settle down again and the lower clubs will bridge the gap in class.
WE lost the series to Australia in 1990 on the back of one bad ref's decsion at Old Trafford. If that decision (obstruction on Gibson) had gone our way we'd have won the game and the series - that's how clsoe we were. Close in 1992, inj Oz and in the World Cup final same year. Same in 1995.'"
so we never had easy games and blowouts when we last had relegation. Who you kidding?
Even in a 10 team league we still gonna get blowouts as we don't have 10 strong teams.
Honestly some people are living in a dream world. Going on like P&R is gonna solve all the problems.
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| i'd love to get rid of the poor teams in SL which just makes so many games a dire spectacle and with a rise in high intensity games we'd hopefully see an improvement in the national team. Get rid of your wakefields, hull kr (who are one of the worst for bringing over average aussies), london, widnes and stick em into the second division with clubs their own size who they can compete with using their academies
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| Quote: FFA "i'd love to get rid of the poor teams in SL which just makes so many games a dire spectacle and with a rise in high intensity games we'd hopefully see an improvement in the national team. Get rid of your wakefields, hull kr (who are one of the worst for bringing over average aussies), london, widnes and stick em into the second division with clubs their own size who they can compete with using their academies'"
New to rl?
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| Quote: Big Ask "The answer is simple
Make Garry Scholfield the RL Supremo'"
As shocking as this may be it is still the best idea by far
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| Quote: fatbaztod100 "As shocking as this may be it is still the best idea by far'"
No, no its not.
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| We can't have Schofield as RL supremo because it's more important that we appoint him to the England coaching job.
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| Quote: Sheldon "New to rl?'"
New to sarcasm ?
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