That attempted tackle was not 'passionate' or 'committed', it was reckless and stupid.

Amazing performance from Wigan. Simply marvellous.

Reckless and stupid is how I would describe Lee Smith kicking Finch in the face. It's also how I'd describe LMS kicking up into McIllorum's face last week. Interestingly these things are only an issue when a certain Wigan player is the culprit.

Leeds are going the same way under Brian McDermott as we did in London, only they've got furthur to fall. As far as I could make out their main tactic was to try to get a Wigan player (preferably Sam Tompkins) so riled that he'd be sent off. Happily Child, who in my opinion had a decent game in difficult circumstances, wasn't having any of it!

It was the holding of that position, and the second push on it that was the problem

Obviously thats the case,



Especially as Leeds are the heavenly choir of angels mande manifest in RL and can do no wrong.
Ever. Fact



Still, going over tackles is all they can do right now, not all that much else they did last night.

Impressive Wigan performance.

I feel stupid for thinking that we would just scrape a win by a try or so lol.

You do realise that when Smith kicked out, he did so because he had just been caught with a pretty poor swinging arm from Carmont, which to Smith would have been no different to a punch in the face and then done over in the tackle dont you?

Oh well when you put it like that, kicking someone in the face who has done nothing seems perfectly reasonable.

Or taking a blow to the face, then having your face done over whilst prone on the floor is probably going to make you do everything you can to get out of that position, including using the leverage of your legs.

But no, you are right, we should definitely castigate the player who got punched in the face then a facial in the tackle for kicking a player he had no way of seeing, and not those who punched him or gave him a facial in the tackle.

Do Wigan players ever do anything wrong in your eyes?

Kicking your legs into thin air offers no leverage, but even if we pretend for a second that it does, it's still the player's responsibility to do so safely. If it results in kicking another player in the face you have acted recklessly at best.


Should we criticise players who kick other players in the face? Damn right we should! Stop making a fool of yourself! If you "have no idea" whose face is near your feet, you don't kick them!

We dont need to pretend, the action Smith did was clearly an action which increased his leverage.

Or you dont punch people in the face then give them a facial cause it is likely to cause said player to lash out in self-protection. If you or your team-mate get caught then you dont really have a complaint. Also i didnt say he had no idea whose face is near is feet, im not sure why you have tried to attribute that quote to me, its probably because you know how much nonsense you are talking, i said he kicked somebody he had no way of seeing, the inference there being that he didnt know anyone was there, not that he knew someone was there but didnt know their identity. Your strawman is ridiculous.