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Quote: headhunter "It's so funny that as soon as Catalans have a match called off there are accusations of wrongdoing and foul play. Despite the fact that pictures clearly show a massive amount of ice on the pitch, and despite the fact that a whole host of sporting events have been postponed throughout France including a RU match where 80,000 people were already in the stadium.'"

Nobody is questioning the state of the pitch. Questions are being raised about why the pitch got into that state and whether everything possible was done to allow the game to go ahead. Watering a frozen pitch and then leaving it uncovered doesn't, on the face of it, seem like a good plan.

There's a small minority mentioning conspiracies. The vast majority are suggesting incompetence. The info coming from McRae last night and this morning also raises some competency questions.

Quote: headhunter "Would anyone have been complaining or bringing up conspiracy theories if a northern M62 club had a fixture called off after a week of sub-zero temperatures, with reports of up to -10 degrees at times? Get over yourselves.'"

If they'd watered the pitch and left it uncovered? Most likely yes. At the very least there'd be rows about competency.

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Quote: Dave Lister "This thread was over after Keith Swiftcorn's accurate assessment of the situation.'"


Of course it was,I mean the fact that someone from the "rugby league family "finds it hilarious that working class people have wasted their money says it all.

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Quote: Kosh "Nobody is questioning the state of the pitch. Questions are being raised about why the pitch got into that state and whether everything possible was done to allow the game to go ahead. Watering a frozen pitch and then leaving it uncovered doesn't, on the face of it, seem like a good plan.

If they'd watered the pitch and left it uncovered? Most likely yes. At the very least there'd be rows about competency.'"


the crucial thing about this that the pitch was watered on the saturday morning - the pitch was playable on the friday before the water was applied but the water froze on the previously playable surface due to the icy air (wind chill) coming from the mountains - when I arrived the air temperature was +3°
The problem lays with te moron who decided to water the pitch a few hours before...

total incompetance and typical french lack of organisation of such matters

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Quote: barton baird "Of course it was,I mean the fact that someone from the "rugby league family "finds it hilarious that working class people have wasted their money says it all.'"


They'd have got beat anyway, probably did them a favour.

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Quote: barton baird "Of course it was,I mean the fact that someone from the "rugby league family "finds it hilarious that working class people have wasted their money says it all.'"


Eaxctly. There are some really stupid posts in this thread.
You couldn't make some of them up! icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Wildthing "Eaxctly. There are some really stupid posts in this thread.
You couldn't make some of them up!

Like the one where Richard Agar got blamed for everthing?

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Quote: ry21 "Like the one where Richard Agar got blamed for everthing?'"


No, that was slightly funny icon_wink.gif
Laughing at peoples misfortunes however, not funny.

They know who they are.

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Quote: Wildthing "No, that was slightly funny
This isn't funny, although if there's one or two of the worst offender's out there i might not feel as sorry for them.

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Quote: ry21 "Like the one where Richard Agar got blamed for everthing?'"

Thats not quite fair,I don`t think anybody has blamed him for allowing Jeremy Clarkson to be on the telly. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: ry21 "This isn't funny, although if there's one or two of the worst offender's out there i might not feel as sorry for them.'"

This is one of them situations where if you don't laugh, you'll cry.

I'm sure the people that have gone will make the most of it. Unfortunately these things happen sometimes and getting really angry about it isn't going to melt the pitch. Just need to hope that lessons are learned so it doesn't happen again and make the most of the time there.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "This is one of them situations where if you don't laugh, you'll cry.

I'm sure the people that have gone will make the most of it. Unfortunately these things happen sometimes and getting really angry about it isn't going to melt the pitch. Just need to hope that lessons are learned so it doesn't happen again and make the most of the time there.'"

I'd love to be in the South of France right now, no matter ehat the weather.

Quote: Wellsy13 "Thats not quite fair,I don`t think anybody has blamed him for allowing Jeremy Clarkson to be on the telly'"

Haha no, but i think the melting of the ice cap's was a step too far icon_wink.gif

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OK, let's start at the beginning and add a little perspective...

The winds come in Perpignan usually for 2-3 days, they've been here for 3 weeks at least, this has a negative effect on the grass, twofold, 1- it dries out the soil and 2 it "burns" the grass (like the wind attacking your face non-stop for 3 weeks, its not gonna be a pretty sight)

The ground isn't owned by the club, and the club have no say as to who the ground keeper is, they've been trying to get rid of the current guy for 2 years, so have no control as to what happens on the field at all.

Because reparation work has been needed since the last friendly, the club has not trained on the pitch, but at the local university in the hope that the pitch will have had the correct groundworks done to it, these have not been carried out by the ground keeper.

On Friday after the referee arrived in France he attended the stadium to look at the pitch and deemed the game playable.

Now the pitch was 95% playable on Saturday, what has happened is the ground was deemed by the Catalans to be too hard, so the ground keeper watered the pitch on Friday night after the previous pitch inspection by Bentham, because the ground ws hard, the water 'pooled' in certain areas and overnight froze, there was no concern at the time as the ground keeper thought these would melt and disperse as the sun melted them. The main area of concern was a 20 metre square (ish) area under the main stand (Bonzom), this area of the pitch did not get any sunlight so did not melt. Every other area of the pitch was playable.

It was at this time (around lunchtime) that Trent Robinson called Hull to say that he had concerns over the pitch, both coaches and CEO's attended a 2pm pitch inspection with the RFL officials and decided to call the game off. There was talk of taking it to the Aime Giral to play on Sunday morning but their pitch was worse with the ice than Brutus.

It is harsh on the fans that travelled over, but I got to the stadium yesterday at 1:30pm and left at 8:30pm after the club had looked at all options available to them. Yes it is a pain in the backside, but after speaking to the RFL today, it is clear that they feel all three parties were a victim of circumstances.

The ironic thing is that the pitch is probably harder in July and August than it was yesterday, it was just the pooling of the water that froze and didn't defrost that caused the issue. I have sent some pictures of the affected areas to the League Express, you will be able to see that the pitch was too dangerous to play on.

Hope that helps some of you to understand the reasonings as to why the game was called off, and for the record, one of the RFL bylaws states that the game can only be called off in the 24 hours preceeding the kick-off time.

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brilliant Ricky,thanks for making it clear

maybe a simple and inexpensive form of drainage could be installed in the danger zones to avoid future problems ?

we are talking peanuts here

it does seem incredible that such incompetance cannot be controlled by the club ?

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Basically sounds like the council have hired a numpty as a groundsman. Catalans need to look at their options here in what they can do to oust him.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Basically sounds like the council have hired a numpty as a groundsman. Catalans need to look at their options here in what they can do to oust him.'"

Think they've been trying for two years or so.

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